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Forum HOUSE RABBIT Q & A Ever Seen A Rabbit With This Problem?

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    • Mother1978
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        This is Bob.

        He’s about 1.8 years old.  I didn’t get him very long ago.  His mate Nelly came with.  She’s about 8 months old and she has terrible teeth.  Her lower jaw is malformed and sticks way out in front of her top jaw.  I also have a much older male who is almost 10 years old.  He also has bad teeth, and I thought they were bad. But I’ve been dealing with them for almost 10 years.  And they are nothing compared to Nelly and Bob.

        I can cut the older rabbit’s teeth easily and then he can eat fine.  Nelly’s, I can cut, but it still doesn’t make it easy for her to eat because the malformation is so bad.  But she eats Oxbow pellets just fine.  She won’t eat any vegies at all.  I don’t know if that has anything to do with her teeth or she just prefers pellets.  Bob will eat lettuce, but he doesn’t eat any solid vegies.

        The two younger rabbits are purebred Lionheads.

        I want to know if anyone else has ever had a rabbit missing their lower front teeth and the top front teeth don’t grow any further out from the gum line?  They’re just little chips.

        It’s also physically impossible to open his mouth properly.  So I wonder if the whole area is malformed?

        I hope the pictures are big enough to show.

        I don’t live in America, so the teeth haven’t been taken out at the roots.  They don’t do that here.  I also wonder if poor Bob has any back teeth at all?  His gums aren’t red and inflamed, so I think it can’t hurt.  He can also eat pellets.  Maybe he sucks them up into his mouth?

        A vet visit is clearly needed.  But some opinions would be nice.  As I’ve had 7 rabbits over the course of almost 10 years and I’ve never seen or had a rabbit like this.

         

         


      • BinkyBunny
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          I have never seen this issue before. When I was volunteering for a few years at a local rabbit rescue, there were bunnies who had to have their incisors pulled due to severe malocclusion. Having no incisors did not affect their ability to eat hay and pellets as they could just use their lips to pull the food into their mouth. Their greens though would have to be cut up a bit as many times bunnies need to use their incisors to cut the wide pieces.

          Your thoughts that his molars may have some malformations is a very valid concern. (Though it is good that he seems to be able to eat okay. You won’t be able to open his mouth wide enough to see his molars clearly, as a vet will need a scope for that.

          You said you hadn’t had him for very long – did you get him from someone else, store or rescue? Just wondering if they would have any further info about this.

          He is lucky to have you caring for him and making sure he is okay. If anyone else has ever seen this or has experienced this with their bunny, please chime in.

          In the meantime, definitely let us know what your vet says as this is definitely something that I feel will be educational for all for all of us!


        • Mother1978
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            I know only a vet can get a good look into Bob’s mouth, but I simply couldn’t get it open much.  He wasn’t even fighting. Nelly fought and I could get her’s open further.  Bob’s whole front area of his mouth doesn’t look normal.

            I got them as a pair from a home who claimed to have gotten a dog and claimed the rabbits were afraid of the dog.  Yeah, your typical story.  I am of the opinion if there’s an issue, the new animal goes, not the ones there first….  But well, we won’t get into that.

            The previous owners didn’t tell anything about their teethnig issues. I probably would have taken them even if I knew of their bad mouths.  I am a sucker for needing to help.  I couldn’t have bared the thought of what would have happened to them.

            I forgot to make the vet visit today.  I’ll have to do it tomorrow.

            Oh I blend their vegies up   Use my Braun blender with it’s little container and everyday blend carrots and other vegies.  Then they can eat them

            They are eating pellets alright.  Should I blend them?  Make it easier for them to eat them?  Or leave them as they are?  Cause that would help grind down their back teeth.  If Bob even has them.

            I forgot, the only rabbit savvy vet nearby left the country and now there aren’t any near me.  I have to take them to a normal vet.  The one I was taking Baby to, when I asked if the back teeth would grow back after she’d taken them out, answered ‘I don’t know’.  Jesus.  No one cares about rabbits here.  I mean we care for our animals, but vets are only interested in cats and dogs, dogs and cats…..  You should see them at this other vet I took them to for Baby and Jack. They were all joyful with the dogs who came into the clinic, but didn’t even spend any time with me and my rabbits.  Just took us in a room and put them to sleep.  Lovely.  I guess they get more money from treating dogs and cats.


          • Kokaneeandkahlua
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              Welcome! Thanks for taking them in They are lucky to have found you! Please let us know how the vet trip goes I’d try even a normal vet, and maybe calling around. If you let us know what country/region your in we can likely point you in the direction of a rabbit vet.

              I wouldn’t blend the pellets-if they are eating them fine then that works


            • LittlePuffyTail
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                Best of luck at the vet


              • Mother1978
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                  Thank you.

                  I went into a vet’s place today and asked if they had any rabbit savvy vets.

                  I live in Finland by the way.

                  They got me an appointment with a vet in Helsinki (some distance from where I live) on the 18th of this month.  This vet is a  mouth problems specialist in all animals.  The vet is apparently very knowledgable with rabbit mouths too.  They will have to put both rabbits under and look through their whole mouth region.

                  I’ll get back to you after the appointment.

                  I wonder how much it’s going to cost….  Gees….  I think 300€ or something. Crap.  Oh and Nelly needs to be fixed. So I asked if they’d do that at the same time.  They have to see, because it another surgery altogether. 

                  The things we do for our buns…. 

                  Now I’ve got three rabbits with bad mouths.  Lucky three LOL.

                   

                   


                • Sarita
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                    Yes, please let us know. I don’t see why they can’t spay her and look at her mouth at the same time…


                  • Buckley's Mum
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                      Oh you poor thing, but well done on giving these buns a caring home, the vets bill probably won’t be a pleasant experience, but what price can you put on bun love? I rescued a hamster (okay much smaller and cheaper pet) but it turned out she had a misaligned jaw and I had monthly trips to the vet to get her teeth filed and I did wonder if that’s the reason she was dumped, but she had a good home whilst she was with us. Keep us informed as to how your buns get on, the photos don’t “look right”, but I’m not an experienced bun owner, good luck and I hope all goes well x


                    • jerseygirl
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                        How long have you had Bob and Nelly now?
                        I’m just wondering if you will start to see incisors grow. If they were there before and broke off below the gum line.

                        The larger protruding lower jaw is usually a hereditary issue and they end up with misaligned incisors that over grow. I suppose it’s possible for congenitally absent incisors though…

                        Hopefully the vet can reveal more. Best of luck with the visits and thank you for taking them in land caring so much. They’re lucky to have you.


                      • FlemishMom
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                          Good luck with the vet trip. So glad you could find a rabbit dental specialist but I do hope a rabbit generalist does move closer to you. It was so wonderful of you to take the poor buns and very surprising that the bun didn’t struggle when you wanted to examine his mouth because generally they don’t like that period and will struggle and if they are in pain they generally will struggle more. So it sounds like he is very comfortable with you and knows you care for him. This does sound like a very unusual case. It will be interesting to know how you all do. Please do let us know.


                        • LittlePuffyTail
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                            Best of luck at the vet!


                          • Mother1978
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                              The vet visit had to be changed to the 25th of this month. Now I have to find something to do in Helsinki for four hours while they’re at the vet LOL. I hope it’ll be nice and warm, because Helsinki is by the sea. I could go for a walk or something. I live inland further north.

                              Oh my buns struggle LOL. Hate being picked up. Nelly REALLY hates it. Bob isn’t too bad. I had Bob wrapped tightly in the burrito way, so he couldn’t really move. He was also on his back, but wasn’t in a trance. He couldn’t really struggle.

                              I’d like to know, if I can get them to take Nelly’s front teeth out by the roots, do they also then take the back molars? They don’t take their teeth out by the roots here, but I already have to blend their food for Bob, so to make it an easier and nicer life for Nelly (she’s only about 8 months old), I could in theory have her’s taken out as well, if I go there with the knowledge it can be done. I just wonder what happens with their back teeth then?

                              I’ve had Bob for about 3 months now. So they aren’t teeth which have broken off.

                              Jim, my elderly bun who is almost 10 yeas old. He has bad teeth. I should take him for a check up too. But I can’t have him put under to check his back teeth. The last time it was done to get spurs of the back teeth, it took two days for him to come out of the anesthesia properly. And the vet said he couldn’t be put under anymore. That was about 5 years ago. No way I can put him under now.


                            • FlemishMom
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                                Sorry to hear about Jim’s issues with the teeth. I don’t know anything about removal of molars so I’m as eager to hear as you are. . . .


                              • mocha200
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                                  That’s to bad that there isn’t any rabbit vets near you. I hope this vet is good and educated! Keep us updated on how things go!


                                • Mother1978
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                                    Oh they changed the vet time yet again. Now it’s the 22.5. But it’s in the municipality that I live in. Yay!!! Only about a 10km drive away this time Yay.

                                    Then I will let you know what they say.


                                  • jerseygirl
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                                      There generally isn’t problem with the molars when incisors are removed. The molars should actually wear more evenly once the misaligned front teeth are out.

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