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BINKYBUNNY FORUMS > DIET & CARE > Lola is at Emergency Vet
Last Post by bmt87 at 11/17/2012 6:43 PM (51 Replies)
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User is Offline bmt87
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11/09/2012 7:01 PM
Sitting in the lobby now. Vibes are really needed.

ETA: Thanks JerseyGirl for linking this from the other thread. 

Here's the "backstory": http://www.binkybunny.com/FORUM/tabid/54/aft/122503/Default.aspx#307719

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User is Offline jerseygirl
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11/09/2012 7:25 PM
Oh no! {{{{{Lola!}}}}}

Thinking if you.

User is Offline MimzMum
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11/09/2012 8:24 PM
Vibes for Lola! (((((((((((Vibes)))))))))))
What happened??
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User is Offline bmt87
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11/09/2012 9:08 PM

Just got home. Lola got subq fluids, meloxicam (metacam) for pain, and metoclopramide (reglan) for motility. She is now on metoclopramide 1mL every 8 hrs and they gave me a little bag of Critical Care - although I wish I would have remembered I had some in the cabinet at home and not paid for it - I was too worried to remember about it.


Long story short - she was fine all day with eating. She had been spending the entire day in her condo - which isn't unusual because that's her space and she is usually there most of the day sleeping. When ~8pm rolled around that's usually her really active time and she was just getting listless - wanted to be on the top shelf of her condo and would just circle the top shelf, flop over, loaf, and then repeat over and over. She poo'ed a couple pearl strings with hair in them so I knew she was backing up. She was also shaking so much she was shaking the entire cage. She wouldn't even touch kale or a treat - and she's NEVER said 'no' to a piece of dried mango. She wouldn't even lap up the baby food mixed with simethicone so I syringe fed her 1mL of it. It didn't help within 30min so we took her. I didn't want to risk it.

We decided not to let her stay over night and I'm hoping that's the right decision - the vet said she thought we caught it early enough that she should be okay but to keep an eye on her. The vet was also a bunny owner so it made me feel A LOT more comfortable that she knew exactly what we were talking about and where we were coming from. As far as the keeping her at home, I figured we know her behavior better than a vet so we could watch her and the emergency vet is literally a 5 minute drive so it would be easy to go back if something went wrong.

There was also another couple in the waiting room with a rabbit going through the same thing - so we regaled our rabbit stories and how it would have been 1000x cheaper to have a dog - but their little faces make up for it!

So - that's that. Here's hoping to an uneventful night with lots of pooping and then veggie eating in the morning....
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User is Offline Monkeybun
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11/09/2012 9:22 PM
Hope she feels better. Vibes heading your way!

You can put the critical care in the freezer to extend its shelf life more. Then you can feel more like it isn't being wasted

User is Offline MimzMum
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11/09/2012 9:28 PM
Poor Lola and poor you!
Well if the vet gave you metaclop then likely as not she didn't find a blockage. Were xrays taken?
Deffo keep an eye (I know you will) because they can deteriorate so quickly during stasis episodes.
The fluids should help move things and hydrate her gut. Did the vet show you how to do these? It's a good thing to know how to do yourself just in case (of course you need the equipment too.)
You're on top of things to be sure and that's great that the ER is so close!
Vibes continuing for a full recovery for Lola!
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User is Offline bmt87
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11/09/2012 9:34 PM
I know how to do the subq fluids I just don't have the equipment. Assuming she is okay in the next 48 hours I'm still going to take her to her normal vet just to be sure and ask if I can get some for situations like this --- because I know she isn't near done shedding so I'm guessing this won't be the last time this happens.

And no x-rays yet - we talked about it with the vet and she said if she had to come in again they would do it.

She's just in her cage grooming now which I hate but I don't think there is a way to get her to stop. It's just an obsessive thing right now -- I don't know if there's any way to get her to stop outside of going to get one of those neck cones which I don't know if it's safe or not.....
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User is Offline jerseygirl
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11/10/2012 1:41 AM
Without a doubt I would have chosen to bring her home also. She should be less stressed in her own environment. You definitely want to minimise stresses when they're not well.

I'm so happy to read you got a bunny loving vet.

More {{{vibes}}}. I hope you have a perky little bunny soon.

User is Offline CinnabunMom
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11/10/2012 2:30 AM
((VIBES)) Keep us updated!
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User is Offline FrankieFlash
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11/10/2012 5:03 AM
((Feel better vibes for Lola))

User is Offline lmais
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11/10/2012 5:46 AM
(((((((vibes for Lola))))))))

User is Offline bmt87
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11/10/2012 10:34 AM
So - I got up extra early this morning because I had a work event I couldn't get out of.  There were poos that looked like this in her cage and this was all of them.  So she went but I wouldn't even count as going...but at least she is passing SOMETHING.



Lola got her first dose of Metoclopramide and I syringe fed Critical Care (hollllly messy mouth!) at about 7am.  She would nibble at greens if I hand fed them to her but only a few pieces...  It took her almost an entire hour to poop some more which is really unusual.  She's usually waiting at her condo door to be let out so she can use her favorite potty box.  I brushed her really well to try to get most of the loose hair out.  She did a few binkies and then we had to leave for 4 hours.  

We just got back and she had another dose of Critical Care.  She seems to be feeling a little better and just looks happier and will actually come out of her cage - but she isn't drinking that much and isn't pooing as much as usual. But at least she is going! 


So that's where it stands.  Still need vibes because we aren't out of the woods yet.

"Mommmm...I no feels good. Make it betterrrr."

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User is Offline Miss Megan
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11/10/2012 11:22 AM
oh i hope she is okay

User is Offline bmt87
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11/10/2012 3:32 PM
Lola hasn't pooped in ~10 hours.  At what point should we get concerned again and take her back to the vet?


She did eat extra watered down greens tonight and when I force fed her some Critical Care I put extra water in it to make sure she was getting some fluids.  She is munching on hay.  And hopping around the room - but just seems to get tired more easily and she has started biting which makes me think she is just really uncomfortable.
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User is Offline james waller
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11/10/2012 3:35 PM
Posted By bmt87 on 11/10/2012 01:34 PM
So - I got up extra early this morning because I had a work event I couldn't get out of.  There were poos that looked like this in her cage and this was all of them.  So she went but I wouldn't even count as going...but at least she is passing SOMETHING.



Lola got her first dose of Metoclopramide and I syringe fed Critical Care (hollllly messy mouth!) at about 7am.  She would nibble at greens if I hand fed them to her but only a few pieces...  It took her almost an entire hour to poop some more which is really unusual.  She's usually waiting at her condo door to be let out so she can use her favorite potty box.  I brushed her really well to try to get most of the loose hair out.  She did a few binkies and then we had to leave for 4 hours.  

We just got back and she had another dose of Critical Care.  She seems to be feeling a little better and just looks happier and will actually come out of her cage - but she isn't drinking that much and isn't pooing as much as usual. But at least she is going! 


So that's where it stands.  Still need vibes because we aren't out of the woods yet.

"Mommmm...I no feels good. Make it betterrrr."


---pictures do tell alot,, it is excellent that the poop box have grasses,ie timothy,/ orchard,--poops have fur in them,thusly called a string of pearls,--and perhaps some distress-dehydration,,?--here is a medical webside which will help to diagnose problems early-  http://www.medirabbit.com  --the reglyn (metroncloprimide)-will cause some bowel contractions--use carefully perhaps with simethicone-(infant)-feel around the gi tract for lumps,bumps,tummy hard.??-watch for any behavioral change,-try to monitor eating of grasses,water--use a scale and weigh every 4 hours if needed--that means a running log for medical history..--sounds like you are doing a fine job,--sincerely james waller

User is Offline CinnabunMom
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11/10/2012 3:42 PM
The BB recommendation is that if they haven't pooped in 12 hours, take them to a vet. It's also the weekend, but I think you have an ER nearby? Yes? Eating though is a good sign, it's when they stop eating that it's time to be VERY concerned. Have you given any more simethicone? ((BIG VIBES))
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User is Offline bmt87
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11/10/2012 3:47 PM
Yes she went to the emergency vet last night at about 9pm. So this is about the time last night and the night before when things went down hill too.... She went last night because she stopped eating...which is why right now I'm like "welllll, you are eating....but please, please, please poop. please."

Haven't given any more simethicone - I didn't know if i could give it with the reglan?
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User is Offline CinnabunMom
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11/10/2012 3:52 PM
Sorry, I don't know the answer to that one. Have you tried tummy massages? Get her moving? Even if it's just some hops around the room?
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User is Offline bmt87
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11/10/2012 4:18 PM
Yep - getting tummy massages and we keep trying to get her to hop around which is why she is biting....she doesn't like when she doesn't have clear access to her cage and I've been sitting in her way to encourage her to stay out and hop around.
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User is Offline tanlover14
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11/10/2012 4:18 PM
Oh god, that little Lola face. Healing vibes for your gorgeous girl! <3
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