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Last Post by BeccaLovesMichy at 11/20/2012 8:07 AM (132 Replies)
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User is Offline NikitaSue20
Gettysburg, Pennsylvania
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10/31/2012 3:18 PM
You would be surprised. I'm 115 pounds 5'7''. (so i'm tiny) and I lifted both my 50lb bale and bag by myself. It's not as heavy as it sounds

User is Offline tanlover14
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11/01/2012 6:11 AM
Usually you can switch their pellets by mixing the two mixes together (should do anyways for their sensitive tummies). Until you switch him over to the new stuff full time you can see how he takes to the new stuff. I really don't think he'll notice to much of a difference but I understand your concern. My buns have never been difficult to switch to other pellets with the mixing in method. And now that they get limited pellets since they reached 6 months, BOY they are not picky about pellets AT ALL. LOL. It's almost like a treat for them now. So I really don't think you'll encounter a problem.

As for the bale, NikitaSue is right.. You'd be surprised. I lifted hay bales all my life and it's not as difficult as it looks! If you need help though you can find something to put it in and just drag it! That's my technique for everything I can't lift. Dragging a 50 lb. anything really isn't difficult at all. And I weigh the same amount as NikitaSue (although I'm 5'4" -- NikitaSue... HOLY HECk, you're tiny! AND tall!) I don't think you'll have as much of a problem as you'd think!
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User is Offline BeccaLovesMichy
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11/01/2012 6:22 AM
haha thanks guys. trust me, i'll need the help. i have difficulty lifting something of half that weight and i usually hold it like a baby. i'm not very strong in my arms and i have wrist issues, which is probably why it's not so bad for you guys (despite being small, you must be STRONG!) right now he's on something not even related to a pellet formula. it's like a nuts and seeds mix for wild backyard life (squirrels, WILD rabbits!) so i'm a bit nervous about how his system will adjust. as i've stated previously, he must be one heck of a hardy rabbit because he's been through a lot, eaten all the wrong stuff, and he is a binkying madman. funny yet tragic anecdote: yesterday as i was crouching over his newspaper to scoop up the urine paper before it had time to soak through, Bun Bun shook his booty as hard as he could and pee went directly into my face!!! i was shocked but not too bothered lol i don't know if that means i'm tough or just gross. maybe both? i honestly feel that he's doing it in the same way a wet dog does - just to get that pee off of him. i don't sense that it's a marking thing? but it could be. he gets a lot of pee on his person though, it's probably uncomfortable for him.

btw i am 5'8 3/4" and 136 pounds and i can't lift much... but i do have really strong legs!!!! maybe i can carry it that way

User is Offline tanlover14
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11/01/2012 7:32 AM
HA! Maybe he wasn't done!? My bratty boy bun used to actually flick his pee at us with his back feet if he was spraying and getting in trouble while we tried herding him to the litter box.
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User is Offline BeccaLovesMichy
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11/01/2012 11:14 AM
i took bella to petco today and she spent her own money on a wooden chew for BB that was 2.99.... unfortunately, he rubbed his face on it and then didn't seem interested in chewing it! it's one of those hanging ones with different colored blocks of wood.

User is Offline tanlover14
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11/01/2012 5:23 PM
Ohhh! The Kabobs! -- my buns didn't seem interested in it at all but when we built them their new condo it was located closer to the floor (past their nose lengths) and now they are ALWAYS yanking on it. It may just be located to high for him to really be interested in. Is it one of the ones that has a bell on the end? We yanked on it a few times with him out of the cage and they seemed to LOVE the noise it makes when they yank on it. So maybe he just needs some encouragement with it too!
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User is Offline NikitaSue20
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11/01/2012 8:34 PM
Lol thanks =D I'm trying to gain some weight. And i haven't spent too much money on toys for the buns because they lose their minds over plain old card board. I figured why spend where you can save lol.

User is Offline Roberta
Wanneroo, Western Australia
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11/01/2012 8:51 PM
Nermals got the hoop with the shapes around it hanging in her cage. She loves to leap though it, nearly gives me a heart attack when she does. Nermie did have a kabob one but that has since been chewed down to ropey remnants. The cheap bright coloured plastic stacking cups are the general favourite. A couple of dollars in the baby aisle at the supermarket. Much pleasure is had bashing them against the floor and hurling them around the paly area. Its even better when I am dumb enough to keep restacking them.
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User is Offline RexEnabler
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11/02/2012 3:20 AM
My little guy loves his stacking-cups too...especially if I hide a bit of a treat between the cups. Otherwise, he is a huge fan of cardboard tubes from paper-towels or toilet-rolls or even balls made of loops of carboard from toilet rolls with treats inside. Maybe it would be a fun project with the kid to make toys for the BB out of cardboard tubes and newspaper?

User is Offline BeccaLovesMichy
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11/02/2012 5:01 AM
you know, i'm finally catching on to the fact that he loves going after my paperback webster's dictionary, which i bring over for spelling HW help, soooo..... the idea i read somewhere of giving him an old paperback (library sells them for a dollar. kind of sad end for a book, but lol) or a phonebook!!! i bet he'd like that! he just gets bored so fast, he's always going from one thing to the next. he's so freaking funny when he runs back and forth like a madman and then all of a sudden he'll just lay down completely flat with his back legs stretched out! he looks JUST like a tiny dog. but he's only down a few minutes! i love reading your posts in my email, you guys are so funny!

Tan: i think it's the one that's a bit smaller than the kebab? We only had 5$ to spend and the kebab one was a bit grander and larger, and that one did have a bell: BB's does not... the metal hanging apparatus does jingle though if you shake it. Since he doesn't have a cage to hang it on, we just put it in front of him on the floor. looked like he nipped at it then went off to do something else. the lady at petco said they design them to attract the rabbits. maybe he needs time to let it grow on him? maybe he just has a harder time understanding what toys are for since he never had them until now. he mostly seems to like entertaining himself by jumping all around the couch and charging back and forth down the hall while binkying. he also like to dart really fast around his newspaper area. it's like he's playing his own little private game! whenever Bella says she wished BB would let her hold him or hug him, i have to remind her that she had him shut outside and isolated for so long, so he has to get used to it.

Rex: yes! that's a great idea! she did get very excited about carving out pieces from a large cardboard box to make him a little hutch/hideout.

Thanks for the comments, all!

User is Offline Skipper's Mama
Florida
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11/02/2012 9:09 AM
Phonebooks are great! Buns have a lot of fun tearing them apart. My little girl loves to go after a dictionary too. =p I would just be careful giving BB the dictionary because the ink used to print the words may be toxic.

User is Offline BeccaLovesMichy
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11/02/2012 9:28 AM
hi again, everyone, bad news.... today i was over letting BB run around and play. he was being a really good boy, letting me brush him and pet him. he was running around a lot then he'd lay down and be really mellow. i was sitting on the couch and he was hopping around on there and all of a sudden he backed his butt up, stuck it out and shot a huge stream of urine down INTO their couch cushions... i was devastated! i've been watching him for a whole month play inside and on that couch and he's NEVER done anything like it before. he's started leaving little poops on there too. i guess we can all safely assume he's marking, right? i mean, he's smart and knows better. he uses his box just fine in his enclosure, and until now had pretty much peed perfectly on the newspaper for me. ugh, i thought we were doing so well... it was soaked, even dripped down into the crevice between couch sections, so it probably soaked into the carpet, which i couldn't get to. i texted the mom letting her know. i told her i cleaned it and that he was prob marking and would stop if they fixed him. i also took teh opportunity to mention "if you ever want/need to get rid of him let me know, i may know someone who'd take him." she wrote back "take the bunny." looks like i'll need to hope my source works out for finding him a new home i had asked a HS friend who has owned rabbits and she said one of her housemates might be interestesd but needed to check with her parents. i hope thisi works out. he needs to get out of there. if the mom isn't ever going to embrace him he doesn't stand a chance of getting all he needs, which she mostly is in control of. i just feel so bad! he seems so happy and comfortable being there and he likes all the other animals... it's his home

User is Offline Roberta
Wanneroo, Western Australia
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11/02/2012 2:04 PM
Once they start to mark you know they have become comfortable in their environment and reached that age where is time to be neutered. Keeping my fingers crossed your friends friend can take him and give him a loving home. Whilst he may be comfortable there now if he keeps spraying it won't be long before the Mum decides enough is enough and gives him to anybody who will take him or worse drop him off at a shelter. Far better to find him a good home now he will settle in again.
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User is Offline BeccaLovesMichy
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11/02/2012 2:21 PM
thanks roberta, you're right he'll be better off.  apparently she already has decided enough is enough!  in fact, i think she wanted me to take him all along, even before any peeing happened.  what you wrote weren't even some of my "worst case scenarios."  i could imagine them just leaving him somewhere, maybe outside or something.  i'm glad i made it clear that i'd help them so they don't do anything drastic like that.

User is Offline Roberta
Wanneroo, Western Australia
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11/02/2012 2:44 PM
You're doing a great job Becca, hang in there. I would get him out as fast as possible even if its to a temporary interim home. Would your Dad let you take him just for a few days or would it cause too much grief between you?
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User is Offline BeccaLovesMichy
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11/09/2012 3:32 AM
Smallish update: My friend's rommate is making a final decision with her mom this weekend, so I should know by Monday. Parents can be tough to convince, as I expertly know, so I am a little worried.

I also think that because they are now in the mindset of getting rid of him, they have gotten really lax about feeding him... ugh. I really can't get ahead with this situation. They ran out of his inappropriate "wildlife" food, and now he's just getting however much carrots/lettuce/celery they're giving him. I didn't know they were giving him anything so brought over several cups of red lettuce from my dad's fridge and a bunch of carrots. I mentioned buying pellets to Bella and she acted like "why would we do that, he HAS food, it's in the fridge." I even texted mom and said I was going to buy him a bag myself and if I could stop over to drop it off. Same apathetic, moronic answer "I can grab him something. He's fine. We're giving him veggies." It makes me wanna pull my hair out. Just wanted to double check with you all that he will survive the weekend on this minimal fare? Is that enough calories for him? I don't know why she's punishing BB further by refusing to let me spend my OWN money and take up my OWN time getting him stuff? Makes no sense. Also if I got him real pellets, would his digestive system be ok, since he's been used to the crappy seed stuff that isn't even for rabbits? When I was bent over his floor in the bathroom cleaning up a potty, he was pawing at me. I'm pretty sure he wanted food, he ate all my lettuce (Which was about two cups) all at once. Then he kept running back to his food bowl and he even started biting my hoodie sleeve while sitting on my lap, which really scared me! I'm chalking it up to the fact he wanted someone to give him food.

User is Offline tanlover14
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11/09/2012 7:28 AM
This poor bun -- it's such a heart breaking story. Getting greens like that MAY be sufficient but only if he also has an unlimited supply of hay, which I don't think he has. Quite frankly, without hay they are pretty much starving the little guy.

I really hope the friend can take him. This bun desperately needs to be cared for properly before it's too late.
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User is Offline BeccaLovesMichy
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11/09/2012 7:57 AM
oh my gosh, that's bad news... so even if i could get him a good kind of pellets, he'd still be essentially starving without hay? i might be able to swing one of the tiny packages they sell at petco, i think it's about 7$ for a tiny square - it's just such a huge ripoff, but it doesn't make sense to get him a 50lb bale at this point. it would be much more manageable in many ways... is it ok to just give it to him, or does it need to be introduced slowly? In case my one lead doesn't work out, does anyone have any ideas as to where I might look for a new home for him? my dad suggested fliers around town, but i don't want to give him away to anyone...especially since he would be free of charge and all, no way to prove they're committed or not psychotic.

User is Offline BeccaLovesMichy
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11/09/2012 9:20 AM
ok so, i figure if i go to tractor supply co. i can get a ten pound bag of feed for 5 dollars, and they sell a 3 pound bag of hay for 6.99... i know if he needs 1/2 cup a day of pellets, a ten pound bag is gonna last over a month. how long do you all suppose 3 lbs of hay will last? it's a better deal than the petco hay. does he really need pellets and hay both at this point in time, or is the hay the essential thing and pellets he could do without? i don't mind buying both if he needs it, especially if it'll last a month or so and that should be enough time to get him out of there. i called a low cost neuter/spay program, but i'm waiting to hear back if they'll make an exception for a rabbit. normally cats n dogs. i also called 4H camp to see if they could somehow help as my dad recommended it.

User is Offline Roberta
Wanneroo, Western Australia
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11/09/2012 12:05 PM
OK, This is an outside chance but one more place to go. You can put buns up for adoption on Bunspace. www.bunspace.com enter a profile and put the word adoption in the title or create a rescue profile and list him for adoption. It's worth a shot. They also list shelters in all areas and may have some that aren't listed on BB. What state are you in ?
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