Roberta -- they stopped all the work they were doing. So I'm not sure what is triggering it. We've tried steam-cleaning AND vinegaring the whole carpet along with using another hand-held carpet cleaner every time one of them has had an accident along with vinegar also. We're trying to limit their area but even in the small area Fleury had an accident last night. The BF and I noticed we've been bad at putting hay in their outside litter boxes though since they have access to hay in their house when they're out anyways... sooo I'm going back to making sure the litter boxes are clean with hay in them at all times!

SkippersMama -- That would totally suck! I'm pretty sure my boyfriend could not go without internet. I think it would be virtually impossible for him to do that. He's ALWAYS on the computer.

I'm seriously considering a career change... I had so much fun photographing the animals at the rescue. I took photos of hamsters, guinea pigs and rabbits today. They came out really well. I'm not like a crazy photography buff but I have a professional camera for the bead/jewelry business and I have learned a thing or two.

SM- I'm not sure I could live without internet. I hope the small company works!

Lol peppy!

I want to try almond milk but I'm afraid to buy a whole thing of it and not like it.

^FrankieFlash, that is what I want to do when I volunteer at the shelter. I want to take better photos of the rabbits and make them more presentable on PetFinder and the Humane Society website.

It's surprising, you'd think there would be too many photographers for rescues but I know the local humane society doesn't have someone to take pictures of buns either. I just can't go back there knowing what they do. But RASA is great with their animals. The fosters treat each bun, pig, and hamster like they are their own.

And now they are peeing outside the litter box inside their bunny condo too.... UGH. I'm at my wits end with figuring out what the problem is. I gave them a smaller area to play in but the problem still persists. And now it's moved to inside the bunny condo to... I just don't know what to do.

Sorry to keep babbling about this issue with me and my buns -- but now that one of them is peeing inside the condo we're worried about possible bladder issues but we haven't seen any of them straining to pee (since Tanger did last week -- we watched him for one more day before deciding on a vet visit and the whole rest of the time he seemed fine and has since). Since all of them have seemed to have lost their litter box habits outside the condo, I'm not sure if they all seemed stressed about something or what it could be. Nothing has changed in our schedule, nor has anything in their bunny condo. The only difference has been the downsize of the bunny play area since they ALL have lost their play area litter box habits. I'm so confused as to what is going on. And slightly worried. It would be so much easier to tell if they weren't bonded and we could SEE which one is making the accidents inside the bunny condo (no idea if it's one of them or all 3) but since they're all in the same area it seems to be almost impossible.

Desperate for any more advice. :/

Tanlover - I wish I had some advice to give you on your bunny pee problem! Ok this may seem weird but have you thought about putting them in all in 3 different x pens? Kinda in a 3 leaf clover arrangement so where they can still cuddle through the fence? They could still smell and see each other too so that may work. If you have a separate condo maybe you could put the one with the pee problem in that one and see if I new space is all she needs. Might want to switch out her litter box too. I would be so completely spazzing out and depressed. You can do it! Just keep your head up and remember this day, because next year it will be a different thing altogether and you'll be so glad to have this over with.

 

On the lighter side, I have something funny to share with everyone. I'm leaving to visit my family today and found this note attached to my suitcase: 

 

It says : "I have two Jesse scented shirts for you! Please don't forget to take them, I don't want you to lose my scent, we would have to bond all over again and you may not think me worth it!"

 

For everyone who doesn't know about me and my hubs Jesse. (which is everyone When we were dating I would ask for one of his shirts to sleep in so I could feel like he was in the bed with me. That and the added research we've done on bonding bunnies I thought this was too hilarious. I knew I had to share it on here b/c only my rabbit enthusiast friends would get this.

Bumble Fly -- That is TOOOO adorable! What a good hubby! <3

As for the suggestion of separating them, I've thought of it but they get really upset when one is taken away, even just to go to the vet. By the time he comes back, they're all out of sorts and spend hours cuddling and grooming each other. It's very obvious it upsets them and even when one just gets taken out of their cage (with the rest in) for nail trimmings and such, it makes them really anxious so I would be really worried about possibly adding to the problem or just simply stressing them beyond what they should be. Maybe some more experienced bonded bunny owners could comment on how separating them has worked out? I've pretty much only kept it as an option if one gets sick or hurt and NEEDs to be away from the other buns.

I love them to death but goodness! And it's so frustrating since I have no idea if it's something I'm doing or if it's something they're upset about or what! If only my little brats could talk... it would be so much easier! I'm definitely trying to keep my head up, as is the boyfriend, who gets frustrated at them and then frustrated at me that I haven't figured out the solution yet. BAH. I'm going to try just re-litter training them with all the things you do when they are babies and learning. Such as wiping all the pee up and throwing it into their litter box along with the poos and anything else we did when they were little. Re-reading all the articles on litter training!


In better news, I'm finding it INSANELY adorable (like I stare at them every night) how when it's dinner time they all sit patiently (and impatiently) waiting at the bowls for food! They finally KNOW around the time dinner is and boy will they sit there and wait for however long it takes me! I can't get over how cute it is. And as soon as I walk in the room they'll watch my every move until they hear the bag and then they start jumping all over each other next to the bag in anticipation. I love their little faces sooooo much. I was 10 minutes late to work the other day because I fed them their morning veggie salads and I couldn't help but just sit there and stare at them as they munched away.

As many of you know, we have AeroGardens for veggies now as well as windowsill plants. We gave up on the lettuce -- we tried two different batches, the first bolted rather quickly we thought and the 2nd one, they're just so flimsy and we would rather use it for MORE HERBS if the lettuce wasn't up to the best! So we've decided to clean out the herb garden and salad garden and start over from scratch since we've learned a bit more about them anyways! We are taking the basil, lemon basil, and mint that has basically taken every over in the garden (crazy good at growing) and I'm putting them all into windowsill plants since they're doing so well -- hopefully the transplant goes okay! Then we're having one tall herb garden and one for the little herbs! Excited to start this new venture. Both the tomatoes and peppers have baby tomatoes and peppers on them also! Can't wait to pick the first tomato! Ahhhhhh. I'm expecting it to be absolutely delicious so hopefully I'm not disappointed! I have to spend today transplanting and cleaning them out before I head to work.

Hope everyone else's week is going good!

Toady I just saw your post (I can't lie, I got distracted by the picture of yummy hot chocolate) and that's great you decided to rescue! We'll also love some pics when you get the buns

I'm so sorry TL! I really wish I could help. Is it their litter box by any chance? Maybe not enough hay in it? I know Skipper will not go in her litter box if there is not "just enough" hay in it. If there is too much or not enough hay she refuses to use the litter box. Also, is the litter box not "clean" to their satisfaction? Maybe the box gets full with enough poo and they refuse to go until cleaned? Have you thought of getting a bigger litter box that all three could fit into? Maybe if you can get all three in there or atleast two in there at a time and they can both go together they can kind of teach other this is what to do? I know this isn't real helpful. =/

We're still trying to figure out Internet. >.< So I've been checking on how things are going with everyone at work or on my phone. =p Skipper has been honking like crazy since we've moved. It's all honk, honk, honk, zoomie, honk, honk, honk, binky. xD It's so gosh darn cute. I'm really hoping and assuming that the honking is a good thing. xP She has been stomping a lot more though. She must be hearing something that is upseting her or we're just not doing something that she wants.

Bumble fly that is just too cute! =]

I'm so confused. What is thumping and stomping? and I had a baby bun escape situation yesterday and now I have a chunk missing form my arm =/ It was the smart one too but I guess she just did not at all cost want to go back in the play pen. I had thumper playing in the pen for the last couple hours and it was so adorable because thumper was jumping so high and then he got tired so he burrowed under his blanket and every time I came over i just saw this bump under the blanket. and every now and then he would poke his head out to make sure I'm still paying attention to him. I'm also having some litter training troubles with oreo but she is still early in it so I've been just patient but I'm afraid she is just teaching the babies bad habits. Because she scoots her butt to the side and pees out the side and then the babies hop over and pee where her pee landed and I tried to put a peice of paper towel soaked with pee in the bin but they get mad and pick it up and take it over to where they want it. And if i try to move it again they snatch it out of my hand. They are getting so aggresive =(

Thanks, SkippersMama. We are definitely back to just doing the basics with them! They all can fit into their litter boxes actually! Two easily, three with a little push and shove. They do it all the time and it's the cutest thing EVERRR! I've been trying to sit back and evaluate the situation and explained to my boyfriend how it's not as easy as it seems because it can mean so many different things! I would just add another litter box but the one deciding to pee outside of the litter box (in the condo) is deciding to under the first level so one wouldn't fit there and I WOULD just switch it around so the level is on the other side but they pee in the other corner too (where the other litter box is!). I'm just going to keep trying the paper towel method and hope whoever is making the accidents picks up on it and realizes that's where they should go! I think hay MAY have been the problem, since we stopped putting hay in the bottom one so I started reputting hay back in there and we're going to see how that goes! With me -- they haven't had any more accidents since we've made the play area smaller, with my boyfriend it's only happened once as far as I know which was a couple of days ago sooooo hopefully that's helping. We have two litter boxes outside the cage so when I figure out how to expand it more it will incorporate the second litter box into the play area again so HOPEFULLY that will help also as the area gets bigger for them. I was worried about bladder problems but I really don't think that is it. They all seem fine with peeing. Tanger looked like he was straining for about a whole day one day but is now back to normal... Ohhhh these bun buns! They sure do keep me on my toes. Thankfully, our VPI Insurance kicked in on the 18th so now if something DOES happen they'll have insurance for it! Whoooo hooooo. That's hysterical about Skippers honking. I haven't heard any of my buns honk! But Sidney does make this weird almost wheezing sounding noise before she thumps at me! LOL. Of course, my BF thinks it's hysterical because she's never thumped at him but has at me whenever I have to move her out of the way to get something. The poor little Majesty. She has my BF wrapped right around her little paw.

NikitaSue, I'm so sorry but I couldn't help but laugh! They move it to where they want it?! That's adorable in the sense but probably not for you! I've never had babies this young so I'm probably of no help. When we first got ours though, around 2 months, he was alittle aggressive at first but then stopped when we would push his head down. I read it on a website about being the "dominant" bun of the bunch. So they understand that you're the head of the herd so to speak? Anyways, it worked with our little guy and his aggressive behaviors in the beginning, so maybe that could potentially help you? It definitely stopped him from nipping. Which he did HARD. I wouldn't assume though that the litter training habits they get from their momma will really stick though. Since all of ours came from a breeder, when we separated them they did pretty well on their own (after the neutering and spaying) and even some before. Only one of the boys was really bad and that was when we first got them. I mean, I'm obviously having trouble with my bunch right now and their peeing everywhere, but in the most common times I don't think it will affect their future litter habits if that's what you're worried about.

Oh, our buns... Mine are all sitting in a pile grooming each other on the heads. It's freaking adorable! Such little cuddle buns, I love having a trio!

Also, I have a question for everyone.... so my boyfriend and I are STILL obsessed with getting the last lilac Tan if the breeder ever decides to sell -- but now that she is probably going to be using him for breeding soon... could this in any way affect his health? Like if we decided to buy him after she had used him once or twice could he have any problems that could arise from that or could it lessen his life span??? I thought it was just with females this happened because of the uterine cancer but now we're intrigued/worried about this little guy and what it could mean for his future? Thoughts?

Isn't it Friday yet??

tanlover: I don't think that it makes a difference weather or not a rabbit breeds in regards to their cancer risk. Since males aren't as prone to reproductive cancer anyway I don't think you need to worry, especially if you plan on getting him fixed. I think he would be fine, but I'm no expert.

If she won't let you have him you could always try to go for one of his lilac babies in the future, that's better than nothing

I went to get some Halloween candy today and ended up with 4 bags. Plus 2 bags of M&M's. It all looked so good. Problem is, we don't usually get very many Trick-or-Treaters. So that means we will end up eating most of it. =\

I really need to get some stuff done today, but I'm not off to a very good start. I needed to clean some stuff, do some laundry, start the dog's haircut, do some homework. Oh yeah, I also need to finish a little bunny costume. Too much stuff to do and I don't feel like doing much of anything. *sigh

Posted By LBJ10 on 10/25/2012 11:55 AM
I really need to get some stuff done today, but I'm not off to a very good start. I needed to clean some stuff, do some laundry, start the dog's haircut, do some homework. Oh yeah, I also need to finish a little bunny costume. Too much stuff to do and I don't feel like doing much of anything. *sigh

What kind of dog do you have? It must save you a good bit of money being able to do his hair yourself instead of going to a groomer

I did a bunch of laundry today too, for some weird reason I actually like doing the laundry 

Hazel - She is a "fuzzy" dachshund. She looks like a little teddy bear when her fur grows out, but it is a nightmare to try to brush. We have been clipping her hair ourselves for several years now. Yes, it has probably saved us a ton of money. We used to take her to Petco to get her hair cut but we found out they were treating her terrible there. So we took her to this nice place that boards dogs in their own little suites. They were so very nice to her there, they even took her outside in their yard to give her a break. Problem was, they charged us $60 for the haircut. Yikes! So my husband decided to invest in some fancy clippers and we have been doing it ourselves ever since.

Well, I managed to clean the bathroom, do some laundry, unpack some winter clothes and pack up some summer clothes, and clip all the parts on my dog that I can do by myself. I guess that isn't so bad. I didn't make it to my homework at all. I still have time yet, but it always seems like I still have time until it suddenly ends up being the last minute. Does anyone else have that problem?

NikitaSue that is too cute and funny! Must be totally frustrating though. I'm wondering if the aggressiveness is a lack of a bond? Despite you being close with the Momma maybe the babies need some more time with you? That's all I can really think of. Tanlover does bring up a good point.

Tanlover your little guys are just adorable. I tell my bf about your buns and he gets a laugh out of their antics. =] Skipper's honk is really quite. If we have the TV or radio on you can't hear it. I've tried taping it but it never seems to get captured correctly. The wheeze that Sydney does. Does it sound like a weezy cough crossed with a swan honk? That's what Skipper's honk sounds like but with a reallyyyyyy low pitch. Maybe that's just Sidney's version of a honk. =D

LBJ there's nothing wrong with tons of leftover candy. ;] You're dog sounds so cute. I have that problem with homework. I get so caught up with one class and think I bunch of time to do the homework of another and it just doesn't get done. It kind of makes me want to bang my head against a wall. You think I would have learned by now.

The Internet guys are supposed to come tomorrow and hopefully will have it all set up! So fingers crossed it works! =]

I was wondering though for those with carpets. Do you have problems seeing pee stains in the carpet? We've been trying to see if Skipper pees on the carpet but we honestly just can't tell. Is there any way to check for pee stains? Will it smell? We try to walk around the carpet and check but we worry that we miss spots.

Skipper's Mama - Yes, I have done that before. I will become so overwhelmed with one class that I will sort of forget about the other one. Good thing I only have one class this semester. My homework that I am worried about isn't actually for my class though. It is actually a project that I have been working on since, uh, July maybe? I have to get all my stuff together into a poster/presentation in the next few weeks because I will be presenting at a conference. See, told you I have been putting this off. LOL

Ha!  I'm the worlds WORST (or best?) procrastinator.  Literally, I wait til the last minute to do EVERRRRRYTHING.  It's a real problem so I definitely feel your guys pain! 

 

So I'm in the process of attempting to go back to school -- I was going to school for Finance in NY when I met my boyfriend and up and decided to move to Pittsburgh, PA to be with him.  Attempting to get my transcripts from my school has been a NIGHTMARE though to say the least, so I'm hoping I'll be able to start taking classes again this coming semester!  YAY for school!   I'm so excited and really want to get my life back on track towards the direction I'm looking to go!  

 

In other news, the breeder we got our buns from posted pics on her website of the newest Tan babies she has and I'm dying inside.  I'm very much trying to convince my boyfriend to get one!  There's a Black Tan (doe) and Blue Tan (buck).  I feel so bad for the little girl though since I noticed on her website that she had listed the doe as "pet quality from smutty eyes" and I looked it up and it seemed to basically be she's not show quality or really breed quality since she has an imperfection.  I don't even wanna think about what some breeders do to ones that aren't up to par, although I'm positive she's not like that... I want them both so bad to save them from a life of breeding.. UGH.  I wish I could save every bun of the world.

 

 

 

How could you not love those faces??!!?  Ugh, I'm going to end up a Tan hoader.  Then they'll all have to be free-roam so I don't have bunny condos everywhere... Le Sigh.  Anyone on BB want a Tan I can get for them???

 

I think BullRider needs a Tan to add to his collection!

Back away from the breeder site... you're having potty problems with your current 3, do you really want to add another baby in, and have baby potty problems plus marking from your current 3? Not to mention additional costs for more buns... it does add up

Omg definally stay away from that site good lord!no more no more lol. Is oreo gonna get cancer because she had babies?

I knowwwwwww. Thankfully, I have my boyfriend and myself to talk each other out of such a horrible idea! My crazy trio are enough for me to handle -- unless of course the one we've wanted since the beginning becomes available but thats THE ONLY OPTION! Hmph - which will never happen! LOL. Wishful thinking?

Finally, it's the weekend! I feel like I've been anxiously anticipating this ALL freakin' week... for no other reason than I feel like I REALLY need to just relax for a day or two. AND on a good note, we haven't had any bratty bunny potty accidents in the past two days! No accidents inside OR outside. Of course this is with the smaller play area we crafted for them. They've been doing so well the past couple of days I'm too scared to widen it in case of them falling backwards! AND as an update on Fleury, the one who originally started this whole process and was becoming aggressive with his peeing, has spent the last FOUR times coming out of his cage hopping immediately into his litter box as soon as he comes out to play, peeing, and then going on his way! SUCH A PROUD BUNNY MOMMA MOMENT! I swear when he does it he even waits for you to look at him and only then will he finally pee and hop out happily. UGH. So happy with my little brat boy! <3 <3

NikitaSue, I have to say I'm pretty confused about that also! But I'm pretty sure it's more if they are bred for long periods of time and never spayed that they can develop the uterine cancer. Once they're spayed, I think they're safe. From what I've seen on here and read most of the times it's if they are older and can't be spayed because of age or any sort of illnesses they've developed. Do you know when you are getting her spayed yet? How old are the babies now?!

I don't think that by a rabbit giving birth, it increases their chances of getting reproductive cancer. If she is of age to be spayed (6 months old+) I would get her spayed ASAP to get that worry off your mind.

Aw, its a big Chacha bun Ha ha, I can't wait to take her bunny dating at the shelter when the Mister and I move in together. I wonder what kind of bunny she will choose as her boyfriend/girlfriend.

Hi Nikkita Sue, My Pepper had two oops litters and I did a lot of research. Several sites stated that a rabbit who had not had a litter was more likely to get UC where as a rabbit that had one or two litters statistically were less likely to get it. HOWEVER I would not rely on that, My Pepper is still going to be spayed very shortly and personally I don't think that breeding rabbits would be protected I think they would actually be more prone to it having had multiple litters and in an environment that is not conduscive to good bunny health.

LOL Tanlover...... I would love to see you adopt that little bun but enough is enough. I have 5 and whilst I would not part with any of them they are a handful and eat like an army of Spartans!!!!.
I bought them some dried pawpaw to try today. I have to chop it up to go in their Craisin box first so I will post updates. They still turn their noses up at banana and strawberries are peasant food to be suffered only when apples or Craisins aren't on offer.

Nikita I honestly don't think it's something to worry about too much. I would just get the momma spayed as soon as possible and that is safe for her and her litter ones. (I'm assuming they have to be weened off first before she can ge spayed. I'm not sure how it works for rabbits but we waited to spay our girl cat after her babies were weened off.)

Tanlover yay good potty progress! =] Maybe your little ones are picking up some Finn vibes and getting good potty habits. =p =] And before you know it you're going to become a bunny hoarder like Bullrider if you're not careful. ;p Of course I'm teasing. But I have nothing really to talk about since I've been stalking Petfinder and a Flemmie breeder's site.

Roberta what are pawpaws? I have never heard of them before. And that is too funny that they don't like strawberries or bananas. Skipper goes nuts for anything sweet. She's not really discriminatory in the least. =]

ChaCha I didn't realize you were getting Koucha a friend! How exciting! =] Are you hoping for a girl or boy friend for her? Do you think she'll want to have a companion?

Chacha is getting a friend??! Oh please tell me there will be many many pictures of this process.

ChaCha BUNNY DATING... YAYYYYY..

Roberta, I think I'm just obsessed with new bunnies in general. I seriously want like every bunny I see. It's a real problem. And bunny babies make it even worse! Will.Control.Self!

Skippers - MUCH YAY FOR POTTY PROGRESS! Hahahaha, although... I'm scared to go check now! I probably jinxed myself...

I am actually really not on the side of getting oreo spayed just because I almost lost thumper after his fixing and I'm still shaky about it. I know it's what is best for her but Idk if I could ever forgive myself is she passed away. I think in the whole first two days after getting fixed thumper ate six basil leaves and drank water once. I spent three days just sitting beside his cage just begging him to eat. And I hear that girls do even worse. Man rabbits are just stress filled animals

They are but you can't really use Thumper's experience as what will happen if you get Oreo spayed. Each rabbit is very different. And in the long run, it will be whats better for her health-wise. If not, she could get uterine cancer and well.. then you'd feel really bad also. It's a lose-lose situation in our buns mind! I know I had a mental breakdown when I left my buns to get done soooo I know your feelings. I swear, it's the worst feeling in the world. But you'll have everyone here at BB to lean on, no matter what you decide to do for your girl! Another possibility, I'm not sure your experience with your vet and what not -- but what happened that put Thumper on that track? Neuterings should be so much easier than spays and both of my little boys bounced back like barely anything had happened to them. Eating and drinking, except once when he was sore and needed some Metacam but that was only his first night. Then he looked back to complete normal. Is your vet someone you definitely trust? Maybe if not -- you could find a more experienced rabbit-savvy vet to take her to to help you get through the process.

So we figured out which bun is having accidents inside the bunny condo and turns out -- it IS Tanger. So we've definitely decided to go ahead with taking a urine sample in to the vet - any idea on how to go about getting one?! LOL.