Cinnabunmom: I completely agree about Lion Among Men. "Painful" is how i usually describe it to others. Out of Oz isn't bad, to be honest. It answers a lot of questions posed by the other books and its nice to see loose ends tied up. I just find that I don't care about any of the characters because of all the terrible choices they made in the previous books. But like I said, I'll be glad when the series is over lol.