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BINKYBUNNY FORUMS > DIET & CARE > Not sure if I want to go through with the neuter....
Last Post by jerseygirl at 10/09/2012 1:23 AM (28 Replies)
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User is Offline Sam and Lady's Human
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9/16/2012 3:41 PM
((( hugs))) I hope the right answer comes to you hun.

User is Offline Nova
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9/16/2012 4:27 PM
Well, this may explain why he is molting now ---- I rescued him as an infant in October, so he must have been born around this time. Happy birthday Boon

From a very reputable source---
http://www.barbibrownsbunnies.com/grooming.htm
HOW OFTEN DO THEY SHED?

Rabbits shed, or molt, their coat two to three times the first year and then typically once a year after that.

The first molt may be at three months of age when you'll see a little fur fly when you pet them.

The six month molt is the big one where folks are certain their rabbit has something wrong because their hair is falling out in great handfuls.

The new fur that comes in after the six month molt will be their adult color and texture. Long haired rabbits fur from this point on will be slightly coarser and easier to maintain with less matting. The Rex coat will be silkier and more velvety feeling.

They may shed again at nine months, but not always.

Then at a year they will shed again. After that, unless there is a dramatic change in weather, they will only molt once a year (around their birthday).

User is Offline MyPets1031
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9/29/2012 4:19 PM
Did you go through with it?

User is Offline BB
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9/29/2012 7:10 PM
I'm with MyPets1031 -- any update?

Regarding the molting: From my experience, my bunnies molt twice a year. Though I have read they can have lighter molts that may equal up to four molts per year. Diet can also have something to do with that too. I just happen to notice the one or two molts per year. And Barbi was right about that crazy molt when they are young. I've mostly had adult bunnies, and nothing compared to the molt of my first bunny, who I got as a baby. (from Barbi's actually). That was 13 or 14 years ago, so hard to remember, but definitely enough to stick out in my mind. But some bunnies can still have "explosion" molts, while others just slowly shed.

I understand your worry about not wanting to go through with surgery during a time in which his gut typically slows down. So what did you end up doing?

User is Offline Nova
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10/01/2012 12:18 PM
He did it!!!!!!

He went in as scheduled on the 24th. Here's what the vet and I did as far as getting a plan of action going....

- We started him on Cisapride the weekend before his neuter on Monday as a PROPHYLACTIC (preventative) treatment. Then we decided to keep him on the Cisapride for the week of recovery. this was my idea


It's been 7 days since his neuter, and all went extremely well except his motility has slowed down despite being on the motility meds. He is healing up well, he is active, but his gut is slowed down, despite being on Cisapride still. I'm supposed to wean him off starting tomorrow so he doesn't get dependent on it, but as of 2 days ago his "mild molt" turned into a big blowout. He turned 1 year old sometime this September, so hopefully any future molts won't be this crazy.

BB - Boon had his first (and biggest) blowout when he turned about 6 months old, and he nearly died from Stasis during that time. He was saved with an enema given on an emergency basis from the vet. Very scary!!

Boon seems to have healed quite nicely, he has no redness or irritation, just scabs inhealing now, he's healed enough to take him off the Cisapride - BUT - it's just that now that he's in a full blowout molt, I'm unsure of whether to wean him off the Cisapride now or keep him on it for an additional few days.

The vet said it's up to me, and if weaning him off causes a problem then to keep him on a few more days, but what do you guys think? He's definitely eating and drinking, just not pooping as much as he used to. He is still on Benebac every other day, too. and that helps immensely. They also taught me how to give subceutaneous fluids and gave me a syringe, some needles and some Lacted Ringers solution. The first day, he didn't drink at all, so when I gave it to him, it went well until he moved and then I believe the needle punctured through his skin. He was bleeding, I was panicking, but I used a Stypic pen to stop the bleeding. I then shaved off his fur in that area and cleaned it with alcohol and water.----- it doesn't seem to be getting infected, but could this put him at risk of developing an abscess there?

I didn't write Dana, I was too afraid of what she might say. lol. I do have intentions of writing her though - for her overall opinion on his chronic slow motility issues and to see if she has any tricks up her sleeve for advice.

Oh, one thing I should mention - they gave me pain meds for him (Metacam) - He got "sick" everytime I gave them to him, so I stopped. He had the 24 hour metacam the day of surgery and he was listless. The next day, I had forgotten to give him his metacam and he was chipper and eating greens and some hay. As SOON as I remembered to give him his Metacam for that day, he went and stopped eating/drinking again and acted very sick until it wore off.
I know that Metacam is an NSAID and can be irritating to the GI lining, so I called the vet and she said if he doesn't seem to be in that much pain, to go ahead and not use the remaining doses of metacam. I took him off of it and he's been fine ever since, just, really slow gut motility.

Let me know what you guys think, and sorry for not getting back sooner. I was a doting bunny mommy every day of last week, lol.

User is Offline LittlePuffyTail
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10/02/2012 1:20 AM
I'm so glad to hear he made it through okay!!!

I would probably keep him on the drug for a few more days if the vet okayed it. I would keep a close eye on the needle puncture area because, with bunnies, any puncture wound has the potential to become an abscess. I had a problem with SubQ and an abscess-like wound with my bunny, Bindi, recently. Not to worry you, just check the area everyday.

Some bunnies just can't handle NSAIDs. Luckily, he's a boy so he probably didn't have too much pain.

Is he eating lots of veggies? I tend to give a bit more veggies like Romaine, during a molt. Also, make sure to serve them very wet.
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User is Offline Beka27
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10/02/2012 2:35 AM
Thanks for the update! I'm glad he made it through and now there's one less thing for your to worry about!

Please write Dr. Krempels and ask her about his chronic GI slowdown. I'm curious to know if she recommends anything on a long-term basis.
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User is Offline Nova
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10/07/2012 7:41 PM
Thanks guys

Well, I did keep him on an extra day. His molt is slowing down and he is back to baseline - just garden variety generally slower than normal motility with occasional stints of gas and short lived constipation every few days.

I've weaned him down to 0.1ml of the Cisapride, and will be taking him totally off the day after tomorrow, so hopefully that will be without incident.

I will write to Dana and keep you updated on how that goes, I think we could all benefit from her advice on buns with motility issues. Boon's seems neurological or organic in nature. something I noticed is that when he drinks, his tummy makes *the* most ridiculous, loud noises.

What's been helping is 1 gram tube of Benebac every other day, strict rationing of the highest fiber pellets I know of (Oxbow) and rationing of his pellets, while balancing them with green leafy veggies such as escarole, endive, romaine, cilantro.... (never iceburg--that's bad). I divide his total daily pellet intake (appproximately 1/4 cup - he's almost 4lbs and anything less than that actually slows his gut down because it leaves him so hungry)....I divide the 1/4 cup of Oxbow pellets into 3 small rations through out the day, usually 3.... the key is to not let him eat too much, not letting his tummy get too full of the pellets, while still satisfying his nutritional needs.... I usually give a wet green leafy veggie in between the 3 rations of pellets somewhere, and I give both my buns unlimited amounts of high fiber oat hay. (I am terribly allergic to timothy, and he doesn't like it anyway. mature Oat hay is equivalent to timothy hay in terms of fiber and nutrition, so this is good, it;s just hard to find mini bales of mature oat hay, apparently it's hard to grow. I get my supply either here at BB, locally or when that is all out of stock I order several of the Oxbow bags of it).


On iffy days, I give belly rubs, simethicone and syringe him with some water in additionto all that to keep everything hydrated and to prevent any masses from drying up and getting impacted. Hydration is key, so it's good I earned to give subQ fluids. When things get real bad, I try a teeny amount of oral medical grade mineral oil (about a half of a milliliter). If things turn into full blown stasis, which is usually during a molt or stress, I try an enema which is about 20ml of water to 3ml of medical grade mineral oil and a drop of antibacterial dishsoap (this is what my vet uses) inserted into his bum hole (the hole that winks back at ya) with either a syringe or an infant bulb syringe....but you really need to have a vet tech show you how to administer an enema and subQ fluids before trying it at home.... a good thing to know how to do..... and of course if things turn into full blown stasis I resort to the meds----but I am careful to use the meds as a last resort and for as short of time as possible (basically until he gets moving again and passes the yuck) as they can build a tolerance to the meds.


The Bene-bac every other day seems to help significantly too, making me wonder if there is trouble with the way his cecum functions. Don't know--- Looking forward to write to Dana.

Will check back in later...

User is Offline jerseygirl
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10/09/2012 1:23 AM
Great to hear the neuter went well. Now for him to stay healthy! You are so pro-active so little Boon is in very good hands.

Dr Krempels has dealt with rabbits like Boon. Some of her own and some of her Rescues I believe. She gave a protocol to one of our past forum leaders (KatnipCrzy) for her rabbit Schroeder. You might like to search old threads or PM Katnip direct if you're interested in taking a look. But definitely do still get in touch with Dr Krempels as she may have modified and improved her method for these stasis prone rabbits.
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