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| 11/02/2012 12:16 PM |
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He is VERY much a fighter. Stronger than me! Hah! He's numming some hay right now, and after eating some greens, he sh*t the bed with large wet sausage poos. By no means am I assuming we're out of the woods, but I think this is an improvement.
About the teeth - absolutely, I couldn't agree more. The new vet and I had decided that if we can get him *stable* and get his gut working at least favorably - also give him a rest from all the trips - that we will be filing down those molars. He said it is ever so slight, but I want it addressed anyway. When this does happen, I probably will have him mildly sedated, because the trip back is a long one and he is very susceptible to stress. I hope this will help in the longterm. Also the Lactulose regimen that Dana suggested for "megacolon" bunnies, she says I need to talk to the vet about also. (She also mentioned that while people call it megacolon, it actually is not megacolon....it's some genetic issue dealing with how the stem cells that control gut motility developed {or failed to develop} in the womb).
I had also learned that the Cisapride we've been giving him is not optimal. The dose was too low, and the old vet had me emptying Cisapride capsule powder into water, but it is not stable in water for more than a few days, so we had the vet call it in to a compounding pharmacy to give us a 30 day stable supply and it *does* need refrigerated.
Hopefully, all of this stuff we're doing will work in the end..... I am so not ready to let him go over the rainbow so soon in his life. Please keep praying, and I appreciate the support so much here. |
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| 11/02/2012 12:57 PM |
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hmm... I wonder, if he doesn't make any significant improvements over the weekend, I mean other than this random up and down crap, if we should consider having his molars shaved down even tho he is not doing very well.... |
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| 11/02/2012 01:03 PM |
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Does he get stressed when he goes to the vet? I'm thinking if he doesn't it might be a good idea since he wouldn't need sedation, and even if it stresses him a little bit it may be worth it because it will likely help (at least a little bit) with his appetite. It's the idea of sedation that worries me the most |
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| 11/02/2012 01:26 PM |
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P.S. (((((((((((continued vibes)))))))))))))) |
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| 11/02/2012 01:40 PM |
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typically, yeah, going *anywhere* stresses him out. He's been doing a lot of sleeping today. Deep sleeping even - the twitchy ears and jaw and stuff. I am going to give him this weekend to have a rest from all the vet visits. But I am definitely concerned about the teeth.
If sanding the teeth down causes any kind of pain or anxiety, I'm wary of it, but I want it done one way or the other. I do notice that he likes the softer strands of hay.
dangit, I wish he'd just wake up and start eating and pooping like normal! This morning he was hopping all around the room, ate a bit, yucky pooped, even was chinning things.
This is so up and down. |
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| 11/02/2012 01:55 PM |
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Aw the deep sleeping is so cute - if they're like humans than it's probably really good for him because that's when we heal the fastest. Although I like better hearing that he was hopping around  And yucky poop is better than no poop at this point, right? Of course normal would be great. For the teeth my vet said it wouldn't cause Ruby any pain (I took her just on Tuesday). They did say that she struggled a bit because she didn't like the file being stuck in the back of her mouth. They ended up just giving her the Metacam I think just to relax her a little bit. I know it's intended as a painkiller but the vet remembered from last time she was on it about a year ago for an eye infection that it would chill her out for a while. For travelling do you think it would help if you had someone drive you? That way you can give him a little relaxing massage there and back. That may help with his nerves knowing you're nearby. The up and down must be so hard  Just know all of our thoughts, prayers, and good healing vibes are with you and Boon here on BB. |
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| 11/02/2012 09:44 PM |
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Thanks for the update. We've been worried! I'm also hopeful for Boon. Now you know there is no blockage must be a huge relief. Are you giving him critical care at all? This new vet sounds promising. Interesting he did find some molar overgrowth. Though the thinks theyre not bad, they could be enough to cause Boon discomfort. Some rabbits are very sensitive. It's promising he allows the vet to look while awake. I agree with lmais, it might be worth asking if the can file them while he's awake. My vet clinic says theyve done this with some rabbits before. As to when, you probably have to speak to this new vet as to when is appropriate. The other vet cancelled on the day of your appt?! That would be so so stressful. I'd be tempted to get one of these bobble heads and use it like a voodoo doll * ahem* though that could be bad karma. Quite frankly, good riddance, sounds as if you've found a better vet in the end. Continued {{{vibes}}}
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 LittlePuffyTailNew Brunswick, Canada
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| 11/03/2012 01:44 AM |
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First of all, I'm so glad to hear that Boon is improving!!! I was getting worried about the little guy. He's so lucky to have a Momma like you! Second of all, I absolutely can't believe that vet!!! What a horrible person to deny you an appointment when your rabbit needs care. Hope Karma gets him! Of course, I'm by no means an expert, but I would probably wait until Boon is a bit more improved before doing his teeth. When I get Bindi's teeth done, his mouth is quite sore and swollen and he is unwilling to eat for several days. Boon might not be as sensitive, though. Sorry to not remember, but have his teeth been done in the past? (((((Boon- Time to give your Mom a break, little Man. Feel all better now. ))))))) |
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| 11/03/2012 10:43 AM |
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Oh yes, he is on Critical Care, but I'm wary of it, because it has less fiber than his pellets! (read on....) He needs it most esp in these last few days because 1. I know there is not a blockage and 2. I can now feel his spine an ribcage and it's disturbing to me. But since he is eating little bits of hay and veggies on his own periodically, I only give him 10ml once or twice a day. (he is 3lbs, so if he were not eating at all, according to the instructions he'd need a total of 30ml a day I think). The problems I'm having with the Critical Care.... I read on some other bunny forum that I'm not a member of, that Critical Care actually has less fiber in it than pellets do! And that it is a "board recommendation for emergencies" and can be given to LIZARDS too.... I looked at the bag, and its min/max fiber is 21% / 26%, as opposed to his oxbow PELLET food which is min 26% / max 29% fiber.....kind of a significant difference there... ....I'm wondering if I shouldn't crush up his pellets and mix those with water instead of the CC?! I'm afraid the CC is gonna get bound up in him and cause another acute blockage since his motility is so slow Help? Thoughts? He won't eat his pellets on his own - maybe 4 or 5 pellets at a time, and in general, I've taken his pellets away until he has better motility and appetite. He cannot survive on hay alone and a few veggies. I have to be careful how many veggies I give cause too much sometimes gives him gas. Also don't know how much CC to give him *at one time* - I usually do 8 or 10ml in the am, and the same at night before bedtime. should I break this up into smaller amounts? The last thing we need is for him to get bound up again.....any help on this please As for his teeth.... the vet said he would want to do the filing after his gut gets moving at a "stable" pace again, if that even happens, and also, when he is finished with his antibiotics. But. If Boon's gut doesn't get moving at a stable pace again.... I don't know what to do. Is it possible that it can really take this long to get him going again? As for today, I'd say it is slightly better than yesterday *so far*, and yesterday was slightly better than the previous day. But hopefully things don't go backwards. Please let me know your thoughts on this.... |
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| 11/03/2012 11:13 AM |
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I just found a link for a sort of fibre supplement for rabbits( http://www.vetscriptions.co.uk/PROT...RAB.html). Not to say that I'd trust this company, it looks a little bit sketchy actually, but it may be worth it to check with your vet if this or something similar would help boon on and that you could give him on a regular basis. If you read the description on the page, it does sound too good to be true, but it seems that he may benefit from a similar product if a trustworthy and effective one is out there. I'm sure another member will have some input on the weight issue. Sorry I can't be much more help on this one. I'm glad it's looking better than yesterday - Keep on fighting Boon! ((((((((((((((((((((Vibes for Boon and Momma))))))))))))))))))))) |
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| 11/03/2012 02:53 PM |
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lmais, the protexin pellets seem popular among uk rabbit owners from what I've seen on uk based forums. I think its more readily there then critical care. I don't know how they compare however. I would think they're similar... Idk
Nova, this GI stasis article offers 2 ways to give pellets. 1 with them broken down with hot water then cooled and "fluffed" up. 2nd method is a pellet slurry.
http://www.mybunny.org/info/gi_stasis.htm
A good article for any rabbit owner to save btw.
Another thing you could try is pure hay pellets if you can find them. This company does straight Timothy ones or some combos of hay.
http://midvalleymillinghaypellets.c...uct-lineup
Or try offer Boon orchard grass or a third cut hay.
Also try plant materials different to his regular veggies. Rose petals and leaves, raspberry leaves, willow, dandelion...
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| 11/03/2012 04:57 PM |
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Yeah, I'm not sure if I can even order from the UK, as I'm in the US :\ it'd be nice, also, if they listed the full ingredient listing on there, but I had no idea that something like that even existed. It'd be very beneficial.
Boon seems quite emaciated at this point; he looks smaller, skin and bones. He plumps up a bit after his nightly fluids or after syringing him water...sigh.
I'm going to look into fluffing up the pellets he already has. The CC just has less fiber in it than his pellets do, and I'm wondering if the fluffy, wet mushy pellets will be better for him.
On the other hand, it may not make him ever want to go back to eating his pellets normally again at all!
He is still currently munching hay periodically (I have both timothy and oat - and a severe allergy to grass, but I'm making exceptions and using gloves/masks at this time), and have been feeding him leafy greens - a little variety here and there but mostly cilantro, escarole and endive. He seems to get very full after eating anything, and his poops are sooooooo sloooooooow. He seems to poop in spurts instead of what used to be normal for him - normal droppings several times per hour not so much now..... Some very large, some very small, but all very wet and yucky....and not very frequent.
If his pooper would just hurry the freaking food through, I am sure he wouldn't get so full so quickly.This all comes down to a motility issue, and I'm not sure what else I can do other than everything I'm doing.
anyhow, gonna look into the other types of grass hays, thank you jerseygirl for the links. I also had no idea buns could eat rose petals - whenever he's out for playtime (which is exhausting to him these days) he keeps finding dried up leaves and nibbles on them from fall and hurricane Sandy blowing them in my house (I live in PA) - I have to promptly take them away from him, but he definitely wants the crunchy stuff.
In general I do think he is doing better but this is THE slowest recovery I've ever experienced in any bun in stasis and I've owned buns since I was 12 (I'm gonna be 26 in about a week).  |
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| 11/03/2012 05:05 PM |
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I was thinking maybe there is either the same or a similar product available in the US/Canada instead. Maybe your vet could get it for you if he knows of one that works well  |
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| 11/03/2012 05:07 PM |
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hmm..p.s., reading about the pelleted hay without binding agents... It's for horses, but I also wonder if he'd be getting proper nutrition by eating those. I mean, he seems to have an appetite for his hay, it's just that he gets full very quickly and his gut is just so hypomotile. I keep wondering if it's even possible for him to ever regain motility again....... |
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| 11/03/2012 05:08 PM |
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Imais, my vets have been pretty unhelpful in general, lol. I'm gonna research the sh*t out of it though, now that I know it exists. |
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| 11/03/2012 05:14 PM |
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My regular vet is calling about something with Ruby within the next few days, she's absolutely amazing, I'd trust anything the woman says. I'll be sure to ask her if she knows of any product like that when we speak, and let you know what she says. I'm in Canada, but at least it's a little closer than the UK! |
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| 11/03/2012 07:08 PM |
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Those hay pellets I only suggest as a way to get fibre into him while in recovery. The fibre length is important so if the hay pellets are over processed and hay milled too fine, it wouldn't be worth it I don't think.
They aren't an outright substitute for pellets but possibly good for rabbits that cannot eat hay.
If you have a good coffee grinder, you could try chop it down at home and add that to a wet pellet mix. The hay fines at the bottom of a bag wouldn't kill the grinder. Hopefully...
He would have stores within his body of vitamins and minerals to get him by. I'd personally concentrate on weight gain after his gut is functioning better. As he seems to be sensitive, you probably don't want to add rich foods (proteins, carbs) that aid weight gain right now.
I think Sarita has had rabbits take a long time to recover and eat after dental work but they made it. I also know of a lady that kept her rabbit going for 6 years that had a malfunctioning gut. Lots of gut episodes. medicine, dentals, natural foods and heartache but he'd come good again.
Dont think too much about if it's possible. The fact is he is still going. He is eating and pooing some. So just take it day by day. {{{Boon!}}} |
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 LittlePuffyTailNew Brunswick, Canada
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| 11/04/2012 09:04 AM |
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Hey guys, thanks for all this help, I appreciate it a lot.
It's very comforting to hear that a bun with such severe GI problems was able to live for at least 5 or so years. I think Boon would be lucky to live that long. the thing is, is that he goes for weeks, sometimes months without a problem at all and a huge appetite.
So I have some good(ish)? news? But I don't want to speak too soon. For the last 2 days, Boon has been willfully drinking, numming hay and veggies, and getting about 20ml of Critical Care a day along with his med routine, and his poops have been RETURNING TO NORMAL!
In size, color, frequency, etc.
I also did a little at home science experiment last night and found that Critical Care IS best for bunnies with clogged up blockages because it comes out of the syringe with ease, while crushed up pellets actually get clogged within the syringe and the water part of the slurry gets pumped out of the syringe instead of the contents. I very much dislike pellets at this time because of that experiment!
So this morning, I woke up to a nice pile of healthy poops in his litterbox, but his tummy was growling and he was passing a lot of gas, so I gave him his regular simethicone and meds, syringed him with some warm water, and reintroduced a tiny fraction of his normal pellets, thinking perhaps his GI tract is just hungry now and needs the gas pushed thru like his normal diet used to be (just with significantly less pellets this time). I gave him no more than maybe a half teaspoon full. He only ate a few of the pellets, but I offered him a small handful of cilantro and he ate all of that.
Now he's sleeping (kinda deeply) again, but the gurgling stopped.
so he either passed the gas or now it's stuck.
He has timothy and oat hay in his litterbox which he hasn't been wanting anything to do with yet today...... and since the teeny bit of pellets and cilantro, no poops since, and that was about an hour ago.
I hope this re-introduction of the tiny amount of pellets didn't set him back or get blocked up. He was doing SO good!  Perhaps they are just taking a while to make it thru his GI, and pushing the gas out for now? Thoughts??? |
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| 11/04/2012 01:30 PM |
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I'm really happy Boon is feeling better and I'll send lots of vibes that he stays on the right track. What vet did you go see right outside Pittsburgh (If you don't mind me asking)? I live in Pittsburgh and we take our buns to a vet not far outside of it either! I can give you the name of my vet, she's always willing to e-mail back and forth with me, so maybe she could help you too if you needed? She's EXTREMELY nice and every time I've had a problem she couldn't solve, she'd reach out to other vets and rabbit care-takers to get their thoughts and opinions. (Mainly with my problem with my bun peeing everywhere!). |
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| 11/04/2012 03:37 PM |
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Hey ya'll! The good exotic vet I saw was Dr. Bennett at a place called All Pets in Gibsonia, PA. It's right outside of Pittsburgh and I know there are two women vets who are great with rabbits too but I wasn't scheduled with them.
I have their business card, they have Dr. Bennett's name listed and two women, I don't remember their names and can't find the card right now ugh
Imais, also let me know what your vet finds out!
Boon's poops turned back into wet sausage poos after I gave him the half teaspoon of pellets, so he's back on just the Critical Care, hay and veggies. ughhhh.
Is he going to need the Critical Care the rest of his life?! Is he going to get dependent on these meds?
I mean I am very grateful that he's got his gut recovering..... but I'm really concerned about his nutrition at this point, and scared about tapering him off the meds (when/if he makes a full recovery) and also scared about reintroducing pellets (and whether it will set him back or not).
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| 11/05/2012 09:03 AM |
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so, here's the status on Boon
He has normal bowel sounds and movement. I can feel pelletted stool in his colon. He has been pooping pretty normally *so long as he eats enough solid foods*.... His appetite is on the low side but since I reintroduced a tiny bit of pellets yesterday, it seems he wants more and more, and less to do with the Critical Care, so I'm going to try no Critical Care today and have him on small amounts of pellets (no more than 1/8 cup total per day, as he is 3lbs), greens and of course hay, for today, and see how he does.
This is all very good news, but, also since yesterday, his gut keeps filling up with gas after a long period of time goes between his last "meal" of pellets. For this reason I'm also backing off a little on the greens and just gonna stick with the cilantro. for today. I'm keeping up with the Simethicone, but it seems like the only way the gas really gets pushed out of his gut is when he has a full stomach and the food is literally pushing the gas out of his tummy.
when he was in the thick of it, he would only nibble on hay and greens periodically. It seems now that his gut is moving a little better, he wants more solid food and when he doesn't get too much, he ends up with a lot of gas.
I am still giving him subQ fluids, but less and less each night, encouraging him to drink more on his own. Also, before each pellet feeding, he gets his gas med and 5-10ml syringe of warm water.
So on having him on pellets again as of today, no more than 1/8 cup per day split up into three rations of two teaspoons full (he is 3lbs, and prior to this, he was on twice that much a day).
Next steps, provided this goes well, would be weaning him off the Reglan first (he's been on it since October 25th), then the Cisapride, then getting him on a an occasional regimen of Lactulose per the suggestion of Dana Krempels, then we address his teeth.
That said, he hasn't pooped today but he went all night with no solid food - just hay and water - so I'm just hoping that the reason he hasn't pooped this afternoon is because there was nothing to poop out since he's been on such a minimal diet.
He's farting LOTS since I fed him....really hoping the gas and farting is just being pushed out bc he is now properly digesting his food again  what do you guys think? |
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| 11/06/2012 09:14 AM |
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Poor Boon.. Really pushing for your little guy to keep getting better! Hope the good vibes keep helping him! The vet we take our 3 brats to is right outside Pittsburgh -- in Robinson. Called Robinson Animal Hospital. Her name is Dr. Angela Keffer if you need to take him somewhere ASAP or want more opinions for your boy! She's a really great vet and if you would like her e-mail address I can always put you in contact with her. She's really great and will take phone calls and e-mails. |
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| 11/07/2012 10:09 AM |
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Hey guys - tan - thank you so much. Yes, if you could inbox me her email I'd love to talk with her about Boon's unique case.I know she would have to actually SEE him, but at this point, Dana Krempels is no longer answering my emails, Boon's exotic vet gave me the go ahead to wean him off the Reglan while keeping him on the Cisapride a while longer. The Reglan was garbage anyway and he's been on it since October 25th-ish? I don't want him to get dependent on it and I just don't think it ever helped him at all. I started him on it BEFORE he went into complete Stasis, during a slowdown, and it did nothing. He didn't start to show signs of improvement until he was started on the Cisapride that we got compounded at a compounding pharmacy.
so far, he has been stable (ish) for the last 3 days, but still has ups and downs.
I'm thinking the exotic vet suspected Coccidia in Boon because he's on Bactrim. I was doing a lot of research last night and they don't usually RX Bactrim unless they suspect Coccidia. And the protocol for Coccidosis is 14 days of Bactrim - and that's how long he's been on it.
I'm actually HOPING that he DOES have Coccidia because then that might mean that maybe he doesn't have that weird rare neurological genetic disease
Also, he's off subQ fluids for the most part, eating no more than 1/8 cup pellets a day, but occasionally we give him a boost with about 20cc fluids because he is still having isolated incidents of slowdown every day..
In fact he's hunched over right now like his belly hurts.
but he is pooping and eating, and has been for the last 3 days. Usually his poops look normal but a lot of the time they look malformed or wet or weird.
I hope this weaning of Reglan isn't going to set him back..... healing vibes still needed!
Nova <3
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| 11/07/2012 04:21 PM |
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but he is pooping and eating, and has been for the last 3 days. Usually his poops look normal but a lot of the time they look malformed or wet or weird.
He's getting there! Continued {{{vibes}}} for the little guy. I think weird poop is to be expected at this point. He would have a lot going on with his system and meds effecting his output too. But (to be ultra basic) stuff going in, stuff coming out is good! :p
There's likely many reasons the vet prescribed Bactrim. Could just be simply the med of choice for that vet because it's proven "tried and true" for them. Could be it has less counter interactions with the motility meds. I think it would have been mainly given to treat toxin-producing bacteria in the gut first and foremost. That it also would treat for coccidia is an added bonus in my mind. I was just looking over info on Medirabbit regarding "megacolon" and coccidiosis is something that would need to be ruled out in making a diagnosis for that syndrome. As far as I understand...
When you next see the vet it could be worth going into this more. Find out if another course of Bactrim would be beneficial once Boon is well past this current episode.
Interesting what you observed with Reglan. I also think this is worth reporting to your vet at the next visit. One of the things I read Reglan does is relax the pyloric sphincter (wiki haha!). As it is thought this part already malfunctions in rabbits with "megacolon" condition, it might be worth noting and may even help in getting more of a diagnosis for Boon.
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| 11/09/2012 07:06 AM |
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Hey Nova, so I talked to my vet about Boons case and linked her this thread forum post to check out: This was her response: "I did read a little on the forum about Boon - seems like a tough case. Dr. Bennett is a good vet, though. I usually only give my email to my clients in need, just because it can get overwhelming sometimes. I also do not want to step on any toes since the veterinary world is a small one (if you know what I mean) and it is very hard to recommend treatments to a patient I have not seen. You can let her know that I do usually suggest taking bunnies that have chronic GI stasis off of greens, fruits, and treats completely and sometimes I stop the pellets as well. I like the simethicone and reglan as needed, but I also use a lot of Metacam for pain control. I like Critical Care and SQ fluids a lot for stasis as a preventative. I had a bunny patient that got SQ fluids 2-3 times a week (along with Metacam daily) and it prevented his outbreaks. She is welcome to call and make an appointment with me if she wants another opinion. You are welcome to ask me anything else as well  " -- Hopefully this helps. If you wanna make an appointment here's the website for their bunny clinic: http://www.gentlevets.com/ And the other info for contacting/reaching them: Veterinarian - Robinson Twp 412-809-0430 5663 Steubenville Pike McKees Rocks, PA 15136 She's great with our buns and really loves working with rabbits, so she's always available if you need her! Her name is Angie Keffer. Before I actually made an appt with her, I actually asked for her to call me back via phone so I could talk to her about the experience with neutering and spaying and such so if you really don't want to make an appt you may be able to do something like that first and see where it takes you! |
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| 11/11/2012 09:20 PM |
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Heya gang,
Boon is down to less than half his dosage of Reglan per day, still on Cisapride & BeneBac, eating 1/8 cup pellets a day plus hay and a small bit of cilantro here and there and is pooping okay. He will be on the Bactrim for another 3 days. He is pooping normally with a good appetite but oddly in the afternoon he gets a real bad slowdown for a good 5 hours and won't be interested in any type of food. Very strange, but it passes.
I think the periodic subQ fluids might help prevent a full blown issue and is a brilliant idea.
at anyrate, Dr. Bennett called and said I could certainly taper the Reglan....he should be off it in a few days.....then taper the Cisapride. But I would really like some kind of help with management of this disease (read on). Additionally, Boon developed a hard, mishapen mass in his skin near his ribcage, feels like scar tissue or something. I can move it around. And Dr. Bennett said that only one of his molars is overgrown, but it definitely needs addressed when he gets stable again.
tanlover, thank you SO much for talking to your vet about Boon. I do believe that awareness of this rare but terrible condition may someday help contribute to better care and for these wonderful animals to have the longest, happiest life they possibly can. 
Dr. Keffer's ideas sound like they will be very helpful. I will have Boon on subQ fluids at least 2-3 times per week to help manage his condition. The Critical Care is great when things slow down, I agree. I'm very impressed with Dr. Keffer's cooperation and reaching out to help. Please let her know how grateful I am. I will definitely consider making an appointment with her if I have any troubles.
While I agree, Dr. Bennett is great, I now know that there are other great veterinarians out there. Though, when I spoke to Dr. Bennett about megacolon, he told me that Boon's colon didn't appear to be enlarged, but he is bewildered as to why he is so prone to stasis and has all the typical signs of cow poop syndrome, so he did not rule out the megacolon possibility. Though, I am not sure if he knows the distinction between megacolon in cats and cow pile syndrome in rabbits. He did mention that megacolon in cats presents with a swollen colon. In rabbits, according tot he article in the link provided below, there were some very interesting findings on this condition.
This all sparked an exhaustive research endeavor conducted by myself, heh. What I found, made my heart sink. I am trying to come to terms with Boon's poor general prognkosis.
Here's the article:
http://en.allexperts.com/q/Rabbits-703/2009/11/Abnormal-Rabbit-Poos-Cow.htm
I'm going to print it off and bring it to my local rabbit-wise vet (I reserve Dr. Bennett for complicated emergencies as the Pittsburgh/Robinson/Gibsonia area is almost 2 hours away) and also eventually Dr. Bennett. If Dr. Keffer is still following this thread, I think she might find this link also helpful.
It explains the presentation, typical signs and symptoms of "cow pile syndrome" or megacolon in rabbits, she describes how she and her colleague manages the condition, and its general prognosis (which was quite upsetting to me).
She said it is essentially the same phenomenon as Lethal White Overo Syndrome in horses.
Boon's poops, when he is doing "good", do often look malformed. Not every poop, but many.
So after having read that article, and the email from Dr. Keffer, I would like to approach Boon's condition in a similar fashion as what is recommended by the article and dr. Keffer.
- subQ fluids couple times per week (about 30cc for Boon, he is 3lbs....but when he is dehydrated needs like 50-80cc)
- Lactulose: I have this on hand at 10 grams per 15 mL.... but I don't know how many mL to give him? and how often? It is used as a preventive.
- Strict diet of mostly hay and no more than 1/8 cup pellets divided up into 3 rations per day
- I will only resort to the mineral oil if I'm making up an enema
- On Thursday, when Boon sees our local vet, she is going to have a tech teach us how to administer an enema and she is also going to examine the mass/growth under his skin. I'll also ask her what she thinks of the article and the Lactulose as a preventive.
Unfortunately these are all supportive measures as there seems to be no treatment for Lethal White Overo Syndrome / megacolon / cow pie syndrome / whatever you want to call it.
I feel rather shocked by this. Really saddened. I sat on the floor doing some work from home, leaning up against the couch whileBoon was having playtime, and he kept binkying up onto the couch and reaching over to my head and giving me kisses on my cheek. I kept welling up with tears. I really hope I can give Boon the longest, happiest life possible.
Also, you guys might find this interesting but one of Boon's siblings - one that looks like him - has gone into his second bout of stasis since they were born this week as well. Fortunately, this bout didn't last more than about 3 days and he has made a good speedy recovery, but he is also afflicted with chronic Snuffles, something which Boon only deals with occasionally. These poor babies. whoever breeded them needs a swift kick, but I don't regret one moment with them.
I'm totally going to be making a Youtube channel in honor of Boon and all bunnies afflicted with his condition and try to educate and bring awareness to it as much as possible...
thoughts???
Boon licking his paws as usual 

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 LittlePuffyTailNew Brunswick, Canada
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