Just not 100%/Low-grade Stasis???? Or gas???

[LittlePuffyTail]

I’m concerned about Bindi.

I posted last week that he was drinking more and being selective with his veggies. We had a vet appointment Monday to re-check his teeth. Vet said his teeth are fine but he has a mild infection in one ear. He’s on Baytril Otic for a week and then re-check next Tuesday. She commented that his stomach felt a bit bigger than usual but she wasn’t overly concerned about it.

I had mentioned to her about his change in eating/drinking and that he’s a bit less active lately. She said she didn’t see anything wrong but if I wanted, we could do some blood work and that it may be a good idea as he’s never had it any done before. After finding out how much it costs, and really not thinking it necessary at the time, I said I will pass for now. I just have so many vet bills lately that I don’t want to do it unless I feel I need to.

The last couple of days, however, his eating habits have changed even more. He’s not as eager for me to give him his bowl of veggies. He tries to get out of his condo when I open the door which he never does, usually he has his face in the bowl before I put it down. He sniffs at his veggies but doesn’t eat them right away. He usually just waits for me to give him his pellets, eats those, and then eventually goes back to his veg. He eventually eats it all but it’s not like him. Normally he eats like a vaccum cleaner and then looks around for more. Still lots of nice, big normal poos.

He’s also less active during playtime. Yesterday I did a bonding visit with Stormy and Bindi seemed really stressed and was super-humpy, and he hasn’t done that in quite a while. He humped the begeebers out of the “humping surrogate” bunny.

I very much doubt his ear infection is causing this change in behaviour because he’s had so many and it’s never affected him before.

Just need some support and vibes, I guess. I’m glad he has another appointment Tuesday. I’m going to keep a close eye on him all week and may opt to do the blood work by then.

[Huckleberry]

Poor Bindi. I hope he gets to feeling more like himself soon. Do you think bonding might be stressing him out? It worries me that his belly felt bigger to the vet. I think the blood work might be a very good idea if he continues this. Poor little guy. I want to snuggle away all his discomforts, but I would probably freak him out, so Ill leave that to you 🙂
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[LittlePuffyTail]

Bonding doesn’t stress Bindi out at all. That’s more Stormy’s thing. I’ve been working at the sessions for a couple of months now and he’s been fine.

I have been snuggling him…don’t worry!

[jerseygirl]

This would not get to the bottom of what’s going on but I wonder if you put him near Stormy when you give the food, whether that would encourage him to eat? They could still be in their separate cages, just within sight or facing each other. Eating can be a social thing for rabbits…

Have you tried any simethicone with him. I know gas is not always the answer to loss of appetite but one dose wouldn’t hurt. If he improved after it then perhaps a bit of gas build up was part of the issue.

[Kokaneeandkahlua]

{{Bindi}}
I ditto Jers-that’s a great suggestion. Competition (even if only perceived) may wet his appetite Or just seeing someone else eat and thinking ‘hey I might need a nibble’

[MimzMum]

You know, LPT, Mimzy has been this way for awhile also for reasons I can’t fathom. Aren’t Bindi and Mimz close in age? Perhaps it is just the middle years getting to each of them?

I too would’ve thought that it was bonding stress…perhaps he doesn’t show it during the bonding, but later in his everyday private activities? If he showed stress while bonding with Stormy, that would almost be like showing illness/weakness I would think and perhaps he doesn’t want to appear anything but calm in front of Stormy?

Is he also going through any food changes? Have you been trying to wean him from pellets or introduce new food?

[LittlePuffyTail]

Bindi is 4, Mimzmum. I think our lops are in a plot to destroy our mental health!!!

It’s just so upsetting to see him not himself. He always leaves something in his dish now but usually eats it a few hours later. I’m upset because I know that most of the time animals don’t change their behavior unless there’s a reason.

He does get to see Stormy eat. There condos are flush side-by-side with just a wee bit of space between to avoid biting. I really don’t think bonding is stressing him out. He always seems to enjoy Stormy’s company. Last night I did a session in our usual spot and he was insane humping. When I wouldn’t let him overly-hump Stormy he would hump and bite the stuffed bunny.  He hasn’t been humpy in a long time. He did this Tuesday too so I gave them Wednesday off. I’ve been pretty slack with the bonding lately too, so I really think it’s something else making him stressed out.

Sigh…what I wouldn’t give to see a Binky or a Popcorn.

[MimzMum]

Hmmm..you know…maybe he is pining for Storm? (only way I can think to put it) I notice that even though Mimz and Five aren’t bonded…they both tend to be a little bluer when not near one another for a time and I keep getting this mental message each time I look at them that they would like me to get on with it. Maybe Bindi wants you to pick up the pace?

It’s stressful for us, I know. But as long as he is eating, even if it’s leaving stuff to eat later, I think he’s probably doing okay…just adjusting to the changes in his routine?

Yup. Loppies are heartbreakers! Mimzy takes a bow for you giving him a nod in the BB Awards that he’s likely to get away with murder…because I am certain it will be MY murder someday! lolz….(So if you guys stop hearing from me, suspect Mimzy!

[LittlePuffyTail]

I had to give Bindi some simethicone tonight. He took one bite of his supper veg and a mouthful of pellets and then didn’t want anything else. His tummy felt a bit big tonight and, like Jersey said, it can’t hurt him to give him some.This is so frustrating. With my bunnies it’s always been; Somethings wrong, find out what it is, fix it. The end. Not this week-long weird behavior. He did a couple of mini-zooms this morning, however. I was glad to see those.

Is it possible for a bunny to have low-grade stasis/gas that lasts a week like this without getting worse?

It’s looking like I will get the blood work done on Tuesday. I can’t afford it but I will have to find a way.

It’s very frustrating. I want him to talk! Do I keep bonding or take a break? Is he stressed out or does he miss Stormy? I’m taking a break for the weekend because the last 2 sessions, like I mentioned, he was super stressed and humpy, and if there is something wrong I don’t want to exacerbate it by stressing him out. Gotta figure out what’s wrong and then decide about the bonding. They were doing so well too.

[MimzMum]

When I was at the ER vet she was trying to tell me that stasis can sometimes take 3 days to properly manifest, but Fiver went down so quickly last night that I was caught unawares. That’s why I was fearing bloat instead.
I have to ask, how stressed are you when the bonding is going on? Could he be picking up on whatever you are feeling? Especially that you are worried for his health? I know for me the wait to bond my three is further exacerbated with the feeling that I can’t shake that they will fight and somebody will lose an eye or some vital organ…so when they are out together I am a bundle of nerves even with a cage door between them. I know though that if they feel that coming from me, they’ll possibly be more likely to be aggressive with one another, since both Fiver and Mimzy seem to think I need protecting.
This odd behavior of Bindi’s doesn’t seem to have presented until you began the bonding process, right? Or was it going on before?
The simethicone certainly is a staple for bunny tummies. I was distressed at how long it took Fiver’s dose last night to have any decent effect on him, but it’s my fault for not pushing fluids. I begin to wish I could learn to give the subq’s and save myself the crazy drive to town each time.

(((((((((vibes for Bindi Loo))))))))))))))))))

[Sarita]

What exactly do you mean by low grade stasis? Because stasis is a condition and not an actual disease, I”m not sure it could actually be low grade. Stasis is basically the gut slowing down for some reason.

[LittlePuffyTail]

Well I guess I just mean that maybe his gut has slowed down some? I’m not really sure. I’ve just never experienced anything like this before.

Mimzmum- Just to fill you in quickly: When I tried bonding last summer, I was super stressed. I decided it wouldn’t work because we we’re all too stressed. I started up again about 3 months ago (I took a while off for Bindi’s teeth procedure a month ago) and have just been taking it really slow, and I haven’t been stressed out at all. Neither have they. It was going super well. We were up to 1 hour sessions every night with no humping or fighting. I thought I would have them bonded in no time.

Bindi had his teeth done about a month ago and took some time to get back to normal. This new eating/changed behavior started about a week ago.

[MimzMum]

That is so weird because Mimzy’s tooth procedure is about two months ago now and since this last month his eating habits have also been a bit off from time to time. 0_o
I think Bindi and Mimzy are twins separated at birth or something…~_~

Is it possible that one of his teeth has cracked or split and is now causing him discomfort? This is what I’m wondering with Mimzy because my trusted vet surprisingly ‘clipped’ his teeth instead of filing them because the spurs were long and in her opinion would take too long to file. I was disappointed and I keep wondering as I hear him chew and there’s a distinct ‘cracking’ noise at times that sounds like he’s eating a jawbreaker instead of hay that worries me. When I asked my vet about it, she said perhaps his teeth are already growing more spurs?

You know Bindi best…does he seem to be in pain? Could his spurs have returned?

[LittlePuffyTail]

Well when we go to the vet on Tuesday for his ear re-check I am going to make sure she does a very thorough exam. I want to be 100% sure about his teeth and, most likely, I will do the blood work. So if there is something wrong, we will find it.

I agree…our lops are way too similar. They look nothing alike but they have so much in common. Both super cute and full of problems that stress out their Mommas!

[LittlePuffyTail]

Mr. Loo is going to the vet at 1:30. I’m going to get the blood work done. He’s still acting the same…just not himself.

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