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BINKYBUNNY FORUMS > THE LOUNGE > Sad News About Jack
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User is Offline BB
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06/02/2011 12:45 PM

It absolutely kills me to actually have to write this -  We just got bad news a couple of days ago when Jack's ultra sound confirmed that he has cancer.  He has a cancerous mass inside of one of his lungs that is spreading little tumors throughout his lungs.  The time that is given, (where I will have to help him peacefully pass over), isn't very far away. Could be a few weeks to a couple of months. Right now, it makes him tired, but he still eats, lounges with Vivian, uses the litterbox just fine.  He is not struggling to breathe and I won't let him suffer.  Right now he breathes heavy but still can enjoy a few things.  The vet suggested that when he has no more interest in anything but to just breathe, then that will be the time as it will be before any real suffering happens.  

Vivian takes good care of him as she cuddles with him and grooms him alot these days.  She is just sticking by his side. 

This is going to be a huge loss for us. My heart is broken. I know he's a senior but I just imagined him being around for a couple more years. I just love that big white goofball of a bunny so much. I just can't imagine my life without him.  So, for now, I try not to dwell on what's coming and just love him every day.  I might cry when I first get up or as I write this post, but in general I take a few minutes to get the sadness out each day,  and then go into Jack and Vivian's space with just love.  I don't want to bring in any sad dark energy into their space.   

I will keep the webcams on for only a few hours a day  from around 11am - 3pm, when I know they are the most relaxed and at peace enjoying their window box together, or hanging out on the ground near the food and hay. Also, with the cams off, I  can spend more time with Jack and Vivian.  I will probably only have the cameras on for a week at the most or until I feel things are disgressing to a point that it would not be appropriate.  Currently,  Jack still enjoys Vivian's cuddles and he purrs, and he even tried to give her a half hearted honk and hump last night, but the cancer just makes him more tired at this point.  But you can see the sweet things on the cams and please send love, joy, peace vibes their way.    

 I changed my avatar to Jack's binky because that is how he has lived most of his life - just a fun goofy silly emotional little spirit, and I don't want to get caught up in this upcoming ending as that is such a small part of his overall life.   This is who Jack really is: 

 

 

This next part is how I discovered something was wrong and maybe it would be helpful to others. 

He has a cancerous lump inside of his left lung, (nothing you can see externally) that has spread little tumors to the rest of the lung and the other lung and causes fluid around the lungs.  Being that he is a senior bunny at an estimated 9 years old,  his gradual slow down was normal.  But a couple of weeks ago, I noticed just a little less umpf than his normal. He still ate, pooed, pursued Vivian nightly though with less energy.  It was time for him to get his regular check up so I decided to make a vet appointment to make sure it wasn't some bladder thing returning. 

A few days prior to the vet appointment, I noticed Jack's breathing pattern was different.  He didn't seem in distress, as he was acting normally that maybe I had just caught him after romping around.  But then when I spotted him at complete rest with this strange breathing patttern, I knew something was wrong and moved up the vet apointment.  Thank goodness I took video his breathingt because when Jack was stressed at the vet, you couldn't see the strange breathing pattern, and everything else in his exam came out normal.  So when the vet looked at the video, she knew something was wrong and we had xrays done.  The xrays revealed an enlarged liver and the lungs did not look normal -- which could have been due to an infection, heart problems or cancer.  But only an ultra sound would be able to reveal what was really going on and that was done days later -- which confirmed cancer.

 

NOTE: UPDATE -- I originally posted that he has a mass in his chest that spread to his body, but after speaking with his vet in more detail just now,  (as I was a bit foggy headed when I first got the news), I discovered  he has a cancerous tumor that is in his left lung that has spread little tumors throughout the lungs. So if you have read this and have seen some of the details change -- that is why.    I asked her if there are any causes that she was aware of this and my vet said no.   But that it is normal for older bunnies to get cancer and the time line given is based on her experiences (and she is an extremely rabbit savvy vet).  


User is Offline Tate
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06/02/2011 01:07 PM
Oh BB, I'm so sorry to hear this. Jack is living an absolutely amazing life and it's incredible what you've built for him- a home, a family... This site is so totally him. From seeing him in pictures, on the webcam, or hearing about him on the forums- Jack certainly has a huge place in my heart and I think everyone on this forum will say the same. I'm not sure what circumstances you built this site on, but I thought that taking in Jack was a big part of it. Through you, he's helped so many people become really great rabbit owners. That doesn't die. He's so much bigger than one little, silly bunny. My boys would not have the care they get now if I hadn't come here. So sorry to hear about this. Focus on the days you have with him now and make him happy and comfy and loved. *hugs*

User is Offline Monkeybun
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06/02/2011 01:13 PM
Oh no jack is such an awesome bunny, we will all miss him. Give him lots of snuggles for me, he's been one of my favorite buns on BB since I joined.

My thoughts are with you, Vivian and Jack. Stay strong!

User is Offline kralspace
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06/02/2011 01:20 PM
oh no, Jennifer, I can't help but cry reading this. Jack is BinkyBunny for me. I'm so sorry for what you will go through but I know your family will do everything possible to make his passing easy. Prayers and love always, Kathy
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User is Offline Sarita
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06/02/2011 01:20 PM
Hugs and vibes from me. Jack is a very special rabbit and he has been lucky to have such a caring owner and to have Vivian in his golden years.

Strength and comfort vibes to you, Jack and Vivian during this time.

User is Offline Dee
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06/02/2011 01:41 PM
I am so sorry. You have given Jack such an amazing life- I love the picture of him doing his binky. I know that there are times when life is so painful it kind of fills up your whole world and you can't see anything else, but I hope that knowing how much happiness and comfort you have given, and continue to give to Jack will help you through it. What you said about this being a very small part of Jack's life is very true. His life has been about being loved by you and Vivian and having the best life a rabbit can have. You, Jack and Vivian will be in my thought and prayers.

User is Offline Cheddar33
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06/02/2011 01:53 PM
I am so sad to read this. I love watching Jack on the cam. Sounds like he will have a wonderful rest of his life with you and Vivian.

I'm curious to hear about what kind of strange breathing pattern he was showing when at rest. Cheddar breathes really hard and is very nasally when he just lays down. It could just be him but just want to check with you.
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User is Offline Queensbun
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06/02/2011 02:30 PM
I'm very sorry to hear about Jack. I've enjoyed the Jack & Vivian stories and spent a lot of time checking the webcams throughout the day (when I was stuck at work or at school) just to get through the day. He is a very special bunny. I am sending positive vibes your way.

User is Offline LoveChaCha
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06/02/2011 02:42 PM
I'm so sad and so sorry to hear about Mister Jack :'(

Chacha and I will continue watching Jack and Vivian together on camera.

His life lives through us all as he has helped us rabbit owners become better parents...
I'm really trying not to cry at work right now
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User is Offline longhairmike
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06/02/2011 02:46 PM
are they going to try to put him on anything?? daily steroids didnt stop buki's cancer, but they gave her almost superpowers for many months until near the very last few weeks. see if you can get a prednisolone prescription, it certainly wont hurt

User is Offline RabbitPam
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06/02/2011 03:18 PM

I just thought I'd post this cute pix of Jack I had saved once. I just love him.

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User is Offline LittlePuffyTail
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06/02/2011 03:31 PM
My heart is breaking for you...I'm so very sorry to hear this devastating news about sweet Jack. You are such a wonderful person and I'm so sorry you have to deal with this. I can't even imagine how difficult this is for you. Know that we are all here for you during this difficult time. Please send my love to Jack and Vivian.

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User is Offline BB
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06/02/2011 03:45 PM

Thank you very much for such kind words and support, it really does help us. (Steve and I) and I know all of your prayers, vibes and positive loving thoughts will benefit Jack and Vivian too.  Very comforting. .

It's such a wonderful thing to hear how some of you mention how Jack represented BinkyBunny and how his life will live on through what everyone (myself included) has learned. That means soooo much.

THANK YOU.


Cheddar - I'll try and post a video of the type of breathing Jack does. It's not the same as noisy breathers (like Vivian). I can't even hear him breathing like I hear Vivian. His breath isn't a consistent smooth in and out. His chest will rise normally with an inhale, but he will exhale fast. So for example, take a normal breath in, and the push your breath out as fast as you can. That is how he breathes.

longhairmike -- I will mention what you told me to my vet. My guess though is it may not be recommended because if I speed up his system via a steroid, and yet he doesn't have the lung capacity to keep up with his energy level that the steroid can provide, it could cause distress. Like if a had the energy to run as fast as possible but my lungs couldn't bring in the oxygen I needed to sustain it. But I will definitely talk to my vet about it as I only know how steroids have affected me (when I got into some very nasty poison oak and nothing worked to get rid of it except a steroid....and that kept me on the go for sure!


User is Offline TaraMichele
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06/02/2011 03:51 PM
so sad and so sorry to hear this...but I think everyone on here knows how wonderful of a life he has had (even being new to binky bunny its hard not to see). I cant even imagine what you're going through but its obvious you are a remarkably strong person and I don't think he would get better care or more love anywhere! wishing you Jack and vivian the best*~

User is Offline babybunsmum
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06/02/2011 03:57 PM
i type this thru tears because tho i've never met him, i love jack. he is so sweet. my fav is your vid of him and the raisin box =P i'm so so sorry bb... i understand how devastating this news is.

(((((((((big hugs of comfort to you)))))))))
and of course
(((((((((lovey head pets for jack and viv)))))))))
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User is Offline MimzMum
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06/02/2011 04:14 PM

Oh my Lord, is there nowhere this disease will not go? *shakes an angry fist*
Jen, I am absolutely gutted right now reading this, so I can only imagine how you must feel. Your courage in only wanting Jack to feel the love and compassion and not the apprehension at what is to come is awe inspiring. Ironically, due to Mimzy's rather odd moods of late, off and on inappetance and subsequent low energy, I Googled cancer in rabbits last night and was reading up on the symptoms. So seeing this post made me feel kind of like I am fresh out of the Twilight Zone.
Knowing how tuned in you are to both Jack and Vivian, and all your other darling lovebunnies you've had, Jack is blessed indeed to have you as bunny mum to care for him. I will keep you all in my prayers and I plan on setting up a luminary for him at the Relay for Life this Friday.

I don't know what else to say. There is nothing really. Words seem so worthless at a moment like this. I wish there was more I could do...that SOMETHING could be done to avert this. But all the warm, golden, hopeful vibes I can muster are coming your way. (((((((((((((((((((((((((God Bless Jack)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Don't hesitate to let me know if you need something. Even if it's just an ear. I'll be here. We all will. This wonderful place has Jack running through it always. And I would've been lost long ago without you, his happy face and all others who come here, drawn to the love that emanates from it.
Bless you all. (((((((((((((((hugs))))))))))))))))))))

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User is Offline Beka27
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06/02/2011 04:17 PM
Hugs.

(((Jack)))
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User is Offline Helenor
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06/02/2011 05:10 PM
I'm so sorry and very sad to hear this. Jack was also the face of binkybunny since I joined. I love to look and him and Vivian on the webcams. Hugs and prayers to you and Jack.

User is Offline LBJ10
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06/02/2011 05:14 PM
Aww, poor little Jack. I'm still pretty new around here, so I don't really know him. But he sure looks like a cutie in his picture.

User is Offline Teddy'sMum
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06/02/2011 05:39 PM
Oh no! ((((Jack)))) I was wondering why the webcam was down. I'm so so sorry. It seems like cancer will stop at nothing =( Ya'll will be in my thoughts.

User is Offline Lani
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06/02/2011 05:56 PM

I am so sad to hear this! Poor bunny boy I've so enjoyed having the webcams on while I work and watching Jack & Vivian as a little "bunny break" when I get stressed. In the time I've been able to watch him, there have been many instances that he's made me laugh or smile just when I need it. And I agree with the others, Jack IS BinkyBunny and he always will be.

Lots of hugs and vibes to you, Jack and Vivian!!!


User is Offline Huckleberry
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06/02/2011 06:21 PM
Thats so sad. Im so sorry to hear this. Poor Jack. I hope Vivian will be ok when Jack binkies over the rainbow. He has lived a wonderful life and you have done the very best for him. I know you wont let him suffer.
<<<>> to the whole family as well as *HUGS*
My heart goes out to you.


User is Offline Bumblebunny
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06/02/2011 06:41 PM
I can't believe it. I am so sorry. I try to watch them for a while several times a week

User is Offline Malp_15
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06/02/2011 06:50 PM
I am so sorry

His legacy will help rabbits and owners for years to come.

User is Offline Joyfull_music
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06/02/2011 08:20 PM
I am so sorry to hear that! I am new to the site and new to watching Jack and Vivian, but I fell in love with them both instantly. You and your family (bunny and human) are in our prayers!

User is Offline (dig)x(me)x(now)
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06/02/2011 08:21 PM

I'm so sad to hear about this, Jen. I will be thinking about you and your bunnies non-stop. We will be here for you through this!

Jack really is does represent Binky Bunny. Your stories and photos of him and your motivations for the website played a big part in the life Frankie has been lucky to have. You've taught me so much over the past couple years thanks to your little dude <3

You've given Jack a great life and he is lucky to be part of all our worlds.


Rachel & Frankie

User is Offline Kokaneeandkahlua
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06/02/2011 09:10 PM
***Hugs*** {{{Jack}}}


Jack really is does represent Binky Bunny. Your stories and photos of him and your motivations for the website played a big part in the life Frankie has been lucky to have. You've taught me so much over the past couple years thanks to your little dude <3

You've given Jack a great life and he is lucky to be part of all our worlds

Well said- I feel like I know Jack from seeing his photo's, on the webcam and hearing about him. I think many of us feel like Jack is in our extended bunny family, and hearing this news is like hearing it about one of our own.
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User is Offline Michelle&amp;Lolli
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06/02/2011 10:07 PM
I am so sorry to hear this. (((((HUGS)))) to all of you!
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User is Offline BB
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06/02/2011 10:36 PM

Though it is painful in some ways to know what's ahead, I am grateful I am able to be aware so that I can be sure to spend more time with Jack and especially to make sure to prevent suffering.

And this also gives me the opportunity to have time to gain strength from you all. I can't express how touched I am by everyone. Thank you so much. I have linked this thread to my toolbar so I can be sure to come here to read all the wonderful things you have said throughout this time. It gives me strength and comfort. Your love, hugs, prayers, vibes will help us through.

Jack just got finished eating some greens and snuggling with Vivian -- until he decided to give her a little love honk, then he stretched out in a relaxed superman pose. So looks like the all the good vibes are helping him stay happy too.  


User is Offline LoveChaCha
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06/02/2011 11:20 PM
Awww How cute BB!

Maybe Chacha was sending him some vibes.. after I trimmed her nails tonight, she went and flopped onto her blanket and put her head on the ground and zonked out.
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