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    • Sam and Lady's Human
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         So tell me all about how your bun acted(or is acting!) through the teenage months! (I know I can (and will) go read the article in the Bunny Info, but I’d like to hear your personal stories!)And if you have any tude’alicious photos to match, I’d love to see those too!!

         


      • Helenor
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          Well, I think my boy is in his teenage stage (hooray for rhyming!) currently. He is more destructive than usual and he’s also more determined to get to whatever he wants to destroy. It’s getting harder to block areas that I don’t want him to go to without him outsmarting me and getting around it. One thing I really noticed the most is that he is bullying my girl much more. When they get pellets and treats, he nips her and chases her away. I’m worried about that, but it probably not as bad as I think since he still loves to cuddle with her and she’s willing to forgive him as long as he grooms her.

          My girl, Lago was destructive as well during her teenage months. Her behavior changed a ton and she got very territorial. She would bite me if I tried to get her food bowl from her cage. I let her out of her cage before feeding her after that. She eventually did calm down and stopped biting me even when I put my hand in her area.


        • Beka27
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            I posted links regarding this in your initial thread. We can combine the two threads if you want to keep everything in one place.


          • Cuckoo
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              well, my boy is marking everywhere the minute i walk into the room. Definately determined to do whatever he wants.
              Plus, he picks food. I fed him all natural fiesta pellet mix. He’ll pick out the stuff he likes: corns, peas, sunflower seed and leave the actual pellet along. And if i just feed him pellet alone, he’ll get angrey and tip over the entire food tray….unless i feed him something better…

              Destructive is a must for him, he dont like his bunny toys, but rather destroy whatever i had in the room. brooms, mops, doors…etc


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                Peppy became a destructive monster…every other second it was like “NO! Don’t chew that!” because she always had her teeth on something. Also, she was umm, loving my arms and legs a little too much. Before we got her spayed her scent glands were also going crazy. The room mate was very unconvinced when we tried telling her that it was the unspayed bunny scent glands she was smelling, and that bunnies aren’t normally that smelly. But thankfully all the odor and most of the destructive behavior subsided a while after the spay.

                Cuckoo, you might want to try mixing in some of the fiesta mix pellets with better quality pellets to get him used to it. It took a while for my bunnies to adjust too, but now they get just as excited for normal pellets without all the stuff mixed in.


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                  Posted By Beka27 on 05/11/2011 03:40 PM
                  I posted links regarding this in your initial thread. We can combine the two threads if you want to keep everything in one place.

                  I don’t see a need to combine, I’m sure I’m not the only new bunny owner here who would like to hear everyones stories. Also, the 2 threads aren’t related considering I’m going to have to deal with the challenge regardless of if Samson is a house bunny or not.

                   


                • SugarbearNPepper
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                    Well, my Sugar is almost 5 months (May 13) and he’s been pooping everywhere but in his litter box! He doesn’t let me hold him anymore *sniff sniff*. He is so wanting to get close to Pepper (girl bun). When I let him out he is constantly sticking his little nose in her cage and trying to get her attention. Sometimes she’ll give him attention but when she doesn’t he will just sit there and stare at her. I think he gets either jealous when I pet her or he doesn’t want me to pet her because he feels like she’s his! Lol! He’s sooo terribly distracted these days that even when I give them vegetables in the morning it will take him FOREVER to finish because he’s too busy worrying about what she is doing!

                    Pepper is almost 5 months as well (May 13). She’s still pretty loving and will let me hold her once in a while. The only thing I’ve noticed is the pooping outside the litter box and these past couple of days, she started peeing on the carpet! UGH!!!

                    Hopefully after the 27th this will all change! *keeping my fingers crossed*

                    BTW, OneTwoThree– i just love, love, love the picture of your bun!


                  • Sarita
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                      It’s been ages and ages since I’ve been through bunny teenage months but I can tell you that some rabbits never grow out of their “bad” habits. I had a beautiful female Californian, Giselle, who just had to have a project and that was digging – digging carpet and destroying it and she never ever grew out of it. She just had to have a project no matter how unhelpful the project was. It broke my heart that I had to keep her confined or else I would have not had a home left. I got her as an adult – how old she was I have no idea and I had her spayed of course, but that didn’t stop her from this OCD behavior she had. She was perfect with her litter box and loved being petted but she was a darn mess and a terrible housekeeper – I think if she was a human she would have been a hoarder.


                    • Cuckoo
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                        That’s a great suggestion. I’ll look into it


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                          Posted By SugarbearNPepper on 05/11/2011 04:18 PM
                          Well, my Sugar is almost 5 months (May 13) and he’s been pooping everywhere but in his litter box! He doesn’t let me hold him anymore *sniff sniff*. He is so wanting to get close to Pepper (girl bun). When I let him out he is constantly sticking his little nose in her cage and trying to get her attention. Sometimes she’ll give him attention but when she doesn’t he will just sit there and stare at her. I think he gets either jealous when I pet her or he doesn’t want me to pet her because he feels like she’s his! Lol! He’s sooo terribly distracted these days that even when I give them vegetables in the morning it will take him FOREVER to finish because he’s too busy worrying about what she is doing!

                          Pepper is almost 5 months as well (May 13). She’s still pretty loving and will let me hold her once in a while. The only thing I’ve noticed is the pooping outside the litter box and these past couple of days, she started peeing on the carpet! UGH!!!

                          Hopefully after the 27th this will all change! *keeping my fingers crossed*

                          BTW, OneTwoThree– i just love, love, love the picture of your bun!

                          Aww a bunny crush!  Sounds like they aren’t bonded yet, are they both getting fixed on the 27th or just Peppy?

                           

                           

                           


                        • SugarbearNPepper
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                            They’re not bonded yet, but they they’ve been side by side (with space in between) for about 3 months now. I’m hoping that when they are fixed the bonding part will be easier SINCE they’ve always been together. But I’ve asked this question here before and the experienced members say even though they seem to get along, it may not be the same once there are no bars between them.

                            YES! They are both getting fixed on the 27th. Sugar probably would have been ready earlier but I wanted it done together. I don’t think I can take the stress TWICE! LOL!


                          • LoveChaCha
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                              Carpet spraying.. eeeeh D:


                            • Sam and Lady's Human
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                                Ms Chacha carpet sprays too?? A girl sprays?

                                I’m pretty sure Samson is mad at me LOL, I put him to bed early tonight. He got lots of love today though, and even did his funny “lay with his back legs straight out behind him like they are broken” lay right next to me

                                 


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                                  To put it simply, she makes me want to scream daily.


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                                    Posted By Joyfull_music on 05/11/2011 09:15 PM
                                    To put it simply, she makes me want to scream daily.

                                    Haha.Good thing they are cute?

                                     


                                  • LoveChaCha
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                                      LOL yes, she sprayed as a hormonal teenager… and the blue carpet would stain. After she was spayed, her potty habits got better. The vet that spayed her said that when he held her, he could tell she was a ball of hormones.. then again, rabbits hate being held o_O

                                      I’m glad that I never got to witness a false pregnancy. I think I would have cried. I made her appt in advance for when she turned 6 months old.


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                                        Posted By Joyfull_music on 05/11/2011 09:15 PM
                                        To put it simply, she makes me want to scream daily.

                                        This sums it up pretty well.  I think girls can be worse with that crazy aggressive, territorial behavior because their nesting instinct gets so strong.  We adopted Meadow at about 4 months.  She was an angel for 1.5 months… and then all *heck* broke loose.  Pre-spay, we were dealing with daily biting and lunging.  Her litter habits were never bad, but she was a big time chewer.  Pretty much right when she was spayed, the biting and lunging stopped, but she was still a good bit destructive until she was over a year old.  I remember just being so exhausted because during her playtime (which had to be pretty closely supervised) I could barely sit down.  She would start to chew or dig something, I’d get up to stop her, and then go sit down.  Not a minute later, she would either start again, or move on to another equally annoying project.  So I’d have to get up again…  we had missing carpet, chewed baseboards, wallpaper torn off that walls, holes in the drywall, holes in the furniture.  At one point, we had flattened sheets of cardboard lining the living so she couldn’t get to the carpet.  It was weird when “cleaning the living room” involved sweeping off the cardboard, NOT vacuuming the carpet!  

                                        BUT… we got thru it, as most people do.  Her behavior really improved once we adopted our second and bonded them.  Max is so laid-back (never bites, nevers chews bad stuff, etc) that Meadow has followed his lead.  

                                        Not everyone experiences so many issues with their buns, but I wouId say that some kind of behavioral difficulty is certainly the norm.  Some are chewers, diggers, sprayers, bad litter habits, biters, some do a combination of these.  

                                        I would not want to have a baby bunny again.  I don’t care if the rescue was giving them out… not in my house.  They are so cute I can barely breathe when I see their pics on here, but the terror that follows… no thank you.  I will only adopt adults (over one year) from now on.


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                                           well I can definitely say Im learning about the bad behavior, but Im noticing he only seems to get into trouble when Im watching… baseboards are sprayed with bitter apple and blocked with card board but he still finds places Ive missed…Id swear he has some type of training to find new ways to get into trouble and outsmart me.  Im just beyond happy he has showed no signs of aggressiveness and no humping…yet!


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                                            LOL Sarita at describing Giselle as a hoarder!

                                            I’ve had Otto since 8 weeks and he never showed any teenage behaviors. He’s never been destructive and was perfect with his litter habits. Around 8-12 months he did go through a period where he liked to be petted – not sure if that’s related. After bonding with Hannah he want back to no-touchies and has been like that for a year.

                                            I got Hannah as a 3 year old, but she’s still hyper and a trouble maker, especially in a new place. She’s pretty good at our house now, but for the first few months she was constantly trying to squeeze under couches and get behind the tv.


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                                              Elrohwen: you are so lucky Otto is such a good boy!

                                              I think Pepper holds it ALL day until I get home from work. I let her out and she pees in front of Sugar’s cage on the carpet. I had to use about 7 sheets of paper towel to soak it all up!! UGHHHH…

                                              What do you guys use for urine on carpet? I’m using white vinegar with water but I just can’t stand the smell! =P


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                                                I think Otto’s mostly well behaved because he’s a complete chicken. I could leave his cage open all day and the chance he would actually cross the wood floors to get anywhere he could cause trouble are slim. His cage could be a single row of NIC cubes and he would never even consider jumping out. He’ll lightly push something that’s in his way (like an NIC barrier) and then hop off, assuming it’s impossible to get through. He pretty much sits around and looks cute. Lol. Hannah is crazy enough for both of them.

                                                I use vinegar/water on the carpet. I’ve had good luck if I do it right away before it can soak in. There are also plenty of carpet cleaners out there you can try, though I don’t like using them around the bunnies because I don’t think you can ever get it all out of the carpet.


                                              • Sarita
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                                                  These products are the best for pet stains I’ve used – they sell them at Petsmart I believe – I get mine at the Guinea Pig Rescue store I help at:

                                                  http://www.pawsitivelycleanpet.com/

                                                  It’s true they don’t work for EVERY stain but they do for just about every animal stain since that is what they are specially formulated for.


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                                                    Posted By SugarbearNPepper on 05/11/2011 05:17 PM
                                                    They’re not bonded yet, but they they’ve been side by side (with space in between) for about 3 months now. I’m hoping that when they are fixed the bonding part will be easier SINCE they’ve always been together. But I’ve asked this question here before and the experienced members say even though they seem to get along, it may not be the same once there are no bars between them.

                                                    I wouldn’t consider myself a more experienced member lol but I DO have experience w/the side by side!  In my case I think it just made Merry jealous of Banner since she saw me petting him, etc.  And everytime one of the little buggers snuck out the pen door during feeding time they would invariably go towards the other one to nip, although at first they seemed to like each other.

                                                    I’ve since put their pens in different rooms (mostly because of an ant problem, but that’s another thread) and I switch them every night.  I think that things are better – we had a tub date that didn’t go too badly! (only a little fur lost and it was Merry’s this time)

                                                    keep in mind though that my buns are a 3 yr old female who I’d had for months before getting my baby boy Banner (born Thanksgivingish so he’s what, like 5 1/2 months old?)


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                                                      Thanks Sarita! I will check out the site you listed.

                                                      Cainan: I think I may try switching cages and see how they do. My place is really not big enough to have them in different rooms and their cages are pretty big! LOL!


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                                                        The trick w/the cages, so I’m told – is to leave everything in there – don’t clean out the poops, etc. (unless the litter box needs to be cleaned! ) – only remove things that the other bun can’t have (like Merry shouldn’t be eating the alfalfa).

                                                        Good luck, let me know if you have success!
                                                        (p.s. they will forget to use the litterbox for a while too – so just pick the little cocoa puffs up and put ’em where they belong )


                                                      • Emmie
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                                                          Oh god, this thread has me terrified of the upcoming weeks!


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                                                            lol Emmie! At least you know what to “look forward” to, and you know that she will eventually get over it. A lot of people have no idea…the bunny teenage phase at sexual maturity is probably why so many of the bunnies at the shelter were all dumped at about ~6 months old . Of course, it depends a lot on the bunny too…Tammo exhibited absolutely no typical teenage bun behaviors.


                                                          • Monkeybun
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                                                              Monkey wasn’t too bad before her spay. She nibbled a bit, and had a couple accidents, but nothign too bad.


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                                                                 Bailey wasn’t bad either before she was spayed. I didn’t get her spayed until she was 9 months old (I got her at 7 or 8 months), and during that time, she was actually free range in my dorm room… but that was mostly because I didn’t know rabbits were capable of destroying walls


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                                                                  Oh god, this thread has me terrified of the upcoming weeks!

                                                                  I think it totally depends on the rabbit and when the spay/neuter is done. Eddie came neutered but he was always a bossy little poophead to everyone. lol I got Lolli when she was 2-3 months and got her fixed when she was 6 months. Lolli never liked to be around me very much to begin with. And she had some problems learning that she needed to go in her litter box only but that was probably more my fault than hers. I honestly don’t remember her behavior changing at all. It could be that I got her spayed before her hormones REALLY kicked or that she’s just a more laid back bunny. It was probably a combination of the two because as soon as I could get her spayed, she got spayed. lol

                                                                  On the other hand, thank God I didn’t have to deal with a hormonal Eddie cause he was insane enough. Everything had to be in its place, nothing changed, had to come find me ALL THE TIME, sat and stared at me while I was on the phone, didn’t like anyone else getting attention, etc…. Don’t get me wrong, he was so incredibly loving to me and Lolli, but he was just a pain in the ass sometimes.


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                                                                    Hodari was spayed at barely 4 months, so she was younger than usual for a female, I guess. Maybe that’s why I never saw one hint of aggressiveness, no growling, lunging, biting, boxing. I worried she might spray… But all was well.

                                                                    She is pretty destructive now, though; prior to her spay, and for a little while after, she mainly enjoyed running and cuddling. She always did like to dig some. Now she is just more enthusiastic about it, and chewing, too, which she seldom did prior to being spayed. I think it’s just normal young bunny behavior, the getting into one thing and then another… I’m fine with that as long as I’m watching her or she’s confined. Besides, it’s fun to tell her not to chew my books and stuff because the minute I say “no”, she dashes away binkying like it’s the most hilarious thing she’s ever heard me say!!! Silly bunny.


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                                                                      Oh I agree that it depends on the bunny. The grumpy, growly, lunging bunny is definitely the adult Merry. Banner’s the sweet little face licker!


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                                                                        Haha I guess it’s just like people too…some teenaged kids are nice as can be, and others go crazy.  So all you’ve gotta do is spay/neuter…oh wait .


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                                                                          We got Momo at 3 months and she was very sweet and cute for that first month. But at about 4 months she became a little terror. Some of it has curbed since the spay last month, but her new favorite thing is throwing. She digs out her litter box constantly and I am still working on getting a screen for it. In the mean time I made her a dig box with shreds of paper, and some crumpled up pieces too. She threw the paper all over the place, upended the box, and soaked it with urine. She is still in the process of obliterating her phone book. And now her new favorite thing is to tear her hay hopper off the cage and throw the hay all over the place, mixing her clean hay with the pile of soiled litter next to her litter box. She likes to dig all of her pellets out of the food bowl and kick them all over the place. Before she destroyed her old water bottle, she used to grab it by the spout and throw that too. Her new bottle attaches to the outside of the cage, so she can’t throw it or destroy it. When my husband and I came home form our valentines date when all of this hellish behavior was starting, she left us a wonderful gift. She made a pile of poops on the floor of her pen. Then peed on it. then smashed it down with those big feet. And lastly rolled in it or something. We got to finish our V-day cleaning a stinky bunny and her cage.

                                                                          Now for what she does out of the pen. She is only out when supervised since she is still a trouble maker. We have a pet gate to keep the dog out of the cat room. So we move the gate to the family room so she can run. We are also trying to let her have some more free roam of the house when she is good. Thankfully she does not chew the walls or baseboards. The only thing she obliterated was a DS cord. But she likes to get behind the entertainment center where it is cords galore. We have canned air for cleaning the electronics, so when she gets back there we spray it in her general direction. (Never spray canned air at ANY living thing) The hiss from the can usually scares her out. Otherwise there is a spray bottle of water always within reach in this house. (5 cats, 1 high chase drive dog, 1 destructo-bunny) She likes to dig at the couches and nibble on those stupid decorative flaps on the bottom of the one couch. She is also now trying to chew the underside of my coffee table where she thinks I can’t get her with the spray bottle.

                                                                          Good news is since the spay she is no longer leaving my living room covered in poop, and has only sprayed like twice. Just before the spray my poor husband was getting peed on almost daily.

                                                                          Also, my recommendation for cleaning pet messes is a 50/50 mix of water and white vinegar in a spray bottle. It’s cheap and it works. Leaves the room smelling like vinegar for the next hour. But it is also animal safe. Also great on reptile cages.


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                                                                            Yeah, I’m sure it probably depends. I really like having a silly bunny, though, and I hope she doesn’t settle down too much when she’s an adult. I think it’s actually pretty fun watching what she gets in to and how she problem solves. She’s got a lot of plans, it seems, and works very hard on her various projects. One night before I went to bed I was watching her move one of her seagrass mats around. She wanted it out of her way and she was trying very hard to lay it on top of her grass tunnel. It meant lifting it over her head and slinging it over her shoulder. She was so determined. I love the orneryness, too, I’ve got to say. With Hodari around I’m always laughing. (I’m sure I wouldn’t be laughing quite so much if she didn’t have lots of toys to tear up, though.)


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                                                                              Joyfull Music, do you have plenty of things in her cage to keep her occupied? I have toys galore for Hodari. If I didn’t, I hate to think of what she’d come up with to entertain herself. As it is, every morning I have to sweep up hay, some poop, and shredded toys and rearrange everything that’s not attached to the bars. She makes a terrible mess. I agree with you that an unsupervised teenager is asking for trouble. They can get pretty creative.


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                                                                                Yes, and always looking for more that hang from the side of the cage. If I put something on the floor of the cage, it usually ends up pee and poo covered and that just grosses me out. But she is also picky when it comes to toys. I do dog agility and sometimes when she is out I put up one of his practice tunnels in the living room and she LOVES it. But that is not fitting in her pen anytime soon.
                                                                                 


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                                                                                  My boys are currently 5 months old and they haven’t been mean to me or anything. They are just a bit spastic and adament against using the box :/
                                                                                  They were both neutered less than a month ago though so maybe teens who aren’t fixed are more of an issue?


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                                                                                    Joyfull- This is a side note but SO cool that you do dog agility!!! When are you going to do bunny agility?!


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                                                                                      Actually, I would love to do rabbit agility! I think Momo would be good at it if she wasn’t so belligerent. But I did recently discover she loooooves dehydrated cherries, so maybe I have some leverage against that rabbitude of hers.


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                                                                                        Posted By OneTwoThree on 05/11/2011 09:13 PM

                                                                                        Ms Chacha carpet sprays too?? A girl sprays?

                                                                                        I’m pretty sure Samson is mad at me LOL, I put him to bed early tonight. He got lots of love today though, and even did his funny “lay with his back legs straight out behind him like they are broken” lay right next to me

                                                                                         

                                                                                         

                                                                                        with dogs, we call that “frog legs”, or “froggin’ it”.  nut puppet is a big frogger. 

                                                                                         

                                                                                        just today, rue decided he doesn’t like to be picked up any more.  he’s also started hopping up on the couch (something he just realized he could do) and running back and forth across my lap, like “HEY!  pay attention to ME!”, but the moment i try to pet him, he hops down again.  he’s also completely forgotten what his litterbox is for.  he always goes back to his cage to pee (not in the box), but he poops everywhere!  he’s started chewing the baseboards and moves anything i put up to block him.  oh, and he’s decided he does not like sol (cat) AT ALL, thumping or even charging whenever sol walks by. 

                                                                                         

                                                                                        i’d decided to wait a bit longer for them to develope (especially puppet) before having the snip done, but i doubt i’ll be able to hold off much longer if rue keeps up like this! 


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                                                                                          Eep, sorry OneTwoThree, Miss Chacha bun peed off and on on the carpet before getting spayed. Her pee habits are 100% now. Sorry ><


                                                                                        • Sam and Lady's Human
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                                                                                            Just want to give snaps to everyone, this was an awesome informative thread!!!


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                                                                                              Just thought I would share for fun two new antics of Momo’s. How to steal my glasses right off my face. And, how to tear down the pet gate we put up to keep her in the living room during her run time.


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                                                                                                Posted By Joyfull_music on 05/16/2011 08:30 AM
                                                                                                Just thought I would share for fun two new antics of Momo’s. How to steal my glasses right off my face. And, how to tear down the pet gate we put up to keep her in the living room during her run time.

                                                                                                Oh no! How big is Momo??? That’s crazy!

                                                                                                 


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                                                                                                  She is 7 months and maybe just under 5 lbs. She is an English Spot (arch breed) so she is longer then she appears. She stands pretty darn tall when she wants to. She likes to sit on the backs of the couches, especially right behind my shoulder, and try to eat my hair. The other day she is sitting as per usual and I feel her little “butterfly tickle” on the side of my cheek, then wham there go the glasses! She entertains us with new antics almost daily. Last night she had an obsession with my husbands favorite blanket I got him for christmas. Scooting it all over the living room floor. I find that the teen months are very trying some days. But they can be pretty funny too.


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                                                                                                    Smudge likes to yank my glasses off my face too


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                                                                                                      Huckles was awful!!! I didn’t know what was wrong at the time and didnt know you could get them spayed.
                                                                                                      She tore up the carpet in her room (thank God she didnt end up with a blockage). She charged and snarled at us every time we came in her room. She no longer let us touch her and started biting ALOT. She growled, grunted, boxed, foot flicked… we pretty much were shocked that we woke up alive every morning! She seemed to have it out for us and suddenly hated anything and everything. She was pulling out her fur and lining her nest in her cage. At the time, her litter box was a plastic dish pan filled with recycled paper product that was inside of a large cat carrier with the door off. We had a daily ritual going. I would feed her and then put all the fluff back in the pan and shove the pan back into the cage. She would spend the next several hours digging all of the fluff out (grunting the whole time) and yanking the pan out of the cage. I gave in at one point and just left the fluff in the cage without the pan. She pushed all the fluff out of the cage… after soaking it in pee.
                                                                                                      We really got to the point where we were a little afraid of her.

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