Worst reasons for getting rid of pets:

[vaderslave]

I was browsing petfinder.com today and found this little gem:

“Wilma came in with her friend fred because they went to the bathroom too much. Wilma gets along with other bunnies she is just a sweetie.”

http://www.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=14662721

 

Goes to the bathroom too much?! I’m really not sure what the owners were expecting her to do. Sure, it’s a little shocking at first how much they poop (I was surprised lol), but still… I’m not sure what they expect the poor rabbit to do about it.

[corpathina]

believe it or not, that’s essentially the reason i have MJ. his previous owner bought him on a whim during easter because he was cute and then after a few weeks decided they couldn’t keep him because he pooped too much and they didn’t like cleaning his cage.

when she told me this and asked me if i wanted a bunny, i agreed to take him before seeing him or meeting him. when someone says something like that, i feel like i just HAVE to adopt the poor thing.

i don’t know what people expect out of pets sometimes! they’re not stuffed animals that just sit and look cute for you to play with when you choose, they’re living, breathing, pooping ANIMALS. ugggghhhh

-steps off soap box-

[Sage Cat]

Oh man, people suck.

I remember when my 2 puppies got Guardia (thy were about 6 months old) They had to go outside every hour – night and day. If I had to run an errand I left them in their crate – only to come home to the 2 of them covered with poo. Plus, they were really dehydrated.
It was awful for everyone. But they were my pets and I loved them.

Those 2 puppies lived to be 11 and 13 years old. The Guardia lasted a week and a half.

[SassyGirl]

Last week I was at my local animal shelter picking up my friend ( she voulunters there) & I went inside to wait for her. There was a teeny tiny 10 week old lab mix that somebody dropped off becouse she “barked to much & got into stuff”. Well duh! She’s still a baby! People suck sometimes. I hope both her & that cute little Wilma get loving homes.

[Deleted User]

Dumped for being alive as it were.. — I think when I was little I talked too much… I’m kind of glad my mom didn’t mind or else….

[Karla]

Right now there are rumours that the govenment might ban certain dog breeds here and the moment the talk started, suddenly all these breeds appeared at shelters because the owners all suddenly got dog allergies. There is actually an epidemic of dog allergy in my country at the moment.

I haven’t heard any really weird excuses such as the rabbit pooping too much when it comes to getting rid of pets (it is actually funny, ’cause my boyfriend did remark about the amount of poop when we got Karl). I think most people tend to say they have allergies, because they don’t want to admit that they made a bad decision and admit the real reason: they realised it is no fun walking a dog, hay costs too much et.c. et.c.

[BunnyBuns7]

Try working at an animal shelter. You’d be amazed what people say. We had a lady that said if we didn’t take her dog, she was going to leave him out on the street. It’s like, you tell us you care about your pet and then threaten to leave him? People are interesting.

[kralspace]

That’s what gets me, they go on and on about what a beloved member of their family the dog (cat, etc) is, how they ‘ve had them for years and it is going to kill them, but the animals deserve a better family……………..and in the last sentence say “we need to get rid of it today” Wilco Tango Foxtrot!

[TARM]

I hate the “I just got my pet three days ago but now I’m moving to a place where animals are not allowed”. That happens with alarming regularity.

[Deleted User]

oh wow, how lame.

I hear there is an allergy to bonding going around also. “I have two rabbits and I am really allergic to them so I want to surrender one.”

[Spidey]

Welcome to the Easter Season

 

 

[vaderslave]

Yeah… I really really hate when people move and “can’t take their pets”. I can slightly understand if it’s a very sudden move, like they lost their job and need to move in with someone, or like if it’s either move and rehome pets or stay and starve/not pay bills/etc. Like an emergency. But i really don’t see that happening often. I just think a lot of people using that excuse are too lazy to find a place that accepts pets or is too lazy/afraid to talk their landlord into letting them have it and setting up a pet deposit or something. Pets are family, I dont know how people can just leave them behind like that. Just in my family a lot of us have been able to convince landlords to allow pets. I just don’t get people.

[LittlePuffyTail]

That is terrible!!! It just boggles the mind!

I recently was very annoyed by reading my local paper’s “Featured Pet of The Day” (they profile an animal at the humane society who is up for adoption). In the last week there was both a cat and a dog (a black lab mix) who were adopted and then returned to the shelter because they were too active!!! First of all, it’s a black lab!!!! and these pets were confined to small cages at the SPCA for who knows how long. Obviously they will be a bit excited and hyper to have free roam of a house. People are so stupid with regards to animals. People are so lazy. Everyone wants an automatic perfect pet…get a stuffed toy.

[Monkeybun]

I love the “my fiance hates the dog/cat/rabbit, so i have to get rid of it even though ive had it for 7 years” thing that happens alot around here. Get rid of the damn fiance. He/she knew you had the pet, YOU knew you had the pet, too damn bad.

[Billie]

The one I see all the time on Craigslist is, “I can’t give them the time and attention they deserve.”

[Monkeybun]

One other thing.. I see all the reasons people list, and can’t help but think.. what if it was a child instead? What would they say then?

[Barbie]

Yeah… black dogs are the hardest to adopt out – too plain looking and labs are the best!

I hate the “I’m moving and they wont let me bring my pet” excuse. Um… for the most part, moves aren’t all that sudden… so I think that’s a pretty lame excuse that you couldn’t be bothered to find an apartment that accepts pets. College kids do that a lot. They get the pet for the school year and then don’t want to keep it though the summer. There are TONS of stray cats running around in the student housing section of campus because they just dump the cat outside. When you got the pet, you HAD to have known that the pet was going to live several years and that you’d have to move with it.

Sheesh. People do suck!

I think this video might have been posted on here before but… it’s really well done. Makes me cry though!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXdmZv99jUw

[corpathina]

monkey, the sad part is i actually know people that treat their children the same way. there was a girl my boyfriend worked with that passed off her kids on people like they were dogs. she would complain how she didn’t have money for her kid’s lunches but yet still bought beer and cigarettes every day. i’m so glad she got fired, but i feel so badly for those kids. she was constantly moving around living with different guys and she would just make other people take care of the kids every time she moved and then she’d take them back when she felt like it.

people do it more often with pets, though, for sure. there’s a girl i have class with that i’m trying to help find a home for her dog because she got her when she lived with her boyfriend, they broke up, and she has been keeping the dog at her apartment that doesn’t allow pets. she’s had her there for 6 months and is JUST now trying to rehome her because she’s about to get evicted if she doesn’t get rid of her. she says if she doesn’t find a home for her by the end of the week she’ll have to bring her to the pound. what the heck?! why would someone wait to the last minute to secure a good home for their pet if you KNOW you can’t keep her? furthermore, why do people adopt pets in such unsure conditions? i feel badly for the girl, but JEEZ.. why don’t people think a little harder?

i think it all boils down to people treating their animals like animals VS people treating their animals like children.

[SassyGirl]

OMG! Somebody please,please,please help this buns. I already sent a message to this person, but he has yet to respond. I will seriously take them in if needed, but I have no way to get up there. the babies are only 5 weeks old! Here’s the link.

[SassyGirl]

My mom said we will drive up there if they still have the buns. Really I’m not quite ready but this just breaks my heart. The babies are way to young to be seperated. I’m hoping I get a response back soon.

[Elrohwen]

These are such sad stories!

I also find it heart breaking when people adopt from the shelter but have to return the animal for legit reasons. These people want so much to help an animal, but circumstances just aren’t in their favor. We had one dog at the shelter – sweetest, cutest dog ever. He loooved women and we all fawned over him. He was a bit shy, so he needed a good home. A woman with an older son finally adopted him and we were so happy. A week or two later he was back in the shelter and I asked the adoption coordinator what happened. Apparently, after a few days, the dog got very possessive of the mom and started growling at her teenage son whenever he would come near. 🙁 I really don’t blame the woman for returning him, but it was just so sad. I know the woman who adopted him was heart broken over it too. He had never been in a foster home, so there was no way to predict that he would act that way. Luckily it was a no kill shelter, and he never bit anyone, so they took him back and tried to work with him until another adopter came along.

[jerseygirl]

A lame one I’ve seen before  was a woman who was getting rid of her black & white lop rabbit because it “wasn’t the colour we wanted”.

[SassyGirl]

Opps sorry giys I wasn’t aware of the new rule about craigslist posts. Sorry

JerseyGirl- That’s horrible! I swear people are so stupid at times. On a good note though that little lab mix got adopted! Yay.

[TARM]

What’s the new rule about craigslist posts?

[SassyGirl]

TARM- I’ll copy it here
“Please don’t repost or copy and paste, or link to Craigslist ads that are focused on individuals who are looking to rehome their bunnies. If you spot a Craigslist ad that grabs your attention and tugs at your heartstrings, you can always contact the poster and offer up this site as a resource for education only.”

[corpathina]

oopsy, i didn’t know about that rule either. sorry!

[Barbie]

Sigh. (Most) people are horrible.

I know this is off topic and technically not allowed since we’re not supposed to post about Craigslist ads.. but Sassygirl, I want to say that I don’t think you should get another bunny(s) until you’re really ready. It will just make things too hard on you and will hinder your grieving process. That being said. If you do feel ready to get a bunny(s) then by all means, go for it! If you feel like you’re supposed to save the bunnies in that Craigslist ad, then I say do it! Those babies are WAYYY too young to leave their mommy, and they are ADORABLE!  If you do go get them, keep in mind that most likely those people didn’t separate momma and daddy, and momma bunny is most likely pregnant again (some vets will do emergency spays though).

[jerseygirl]

I just saw an ad regarding a dog. I’ve edited out names and numbers.

2 year old Kelpie x
Unfortunately we have to give away our beloved boy, [name] as we have another dog who is alot bigger and tries to attack him.
We would love for him to go to a good home with people who have the time to play with him and give him lots of affection.
He loves the beach and he is very friendly.

He is 2km away from where I live and kelpie like my sisters dog whom I love.

 

[Barbie]

The “we have other pets that attack him” excuse is dumb too… I mean, you didn’t think to see how your other animals would be around him BEFORE you got him? Sheesh.

Honestly, I think any reason is a pretty lame excuse. Ok, well there are some legit reasons like the one about the dog who got way too possessive of his new owner around her son, but the way I see it, when you take in an animal, you adopt him/her into your family and under NO circumstances should you just give it up like these people who come into the shelter or post on CL. Sure I understand if the owner gets sick or dies or something, and no one in the family can take on a pet, but beyond that…. Ugh. It makes me so sad. And then I think of the kids who get treated like this by their parents and get even more sad. So I avoid CL’s pets section.

Happy thoughts!

[Barbie]

Oh wow Jersey. I just looked up “kelpie”… Those dogs are beautiful!

[SassyGirl]

Barbie- I talked it over with my mom & after a lot of thought & a few shed tears I decided this is something I really want to do. I’m not going to do it becouse I’m trying to replace Flopsy ( he can never be replaced). Something feels right about this though. As soon as I saw that post it hit my heart & just felt right. I know that may sound stupid but it’s the only was I can describe it I have a feeling even if Flopsy was still around, I would still take them in.
The guy finally called back & my mom replied back right away with her phone number ( I’m only 17 so she has to be the one to talk to him). His supposed to call tomorrow morning. I’m so happy I’m off of school the next two days ( Teacher work days). I have also already called the vet & told her the sitaution. IF this does happen ( I so hope this does) she will help me find homes for everybody when there old enough.

[jerseygirl]

Yes Happy thoughts!

I actually misread the ad I posted about just now. I thought they just got a new dog that was attacking their other dog so they were getting rid of the one they already had. I just couldn’t fathom it. But I see it doesn’t say this. It sort of gives me a lesson not to jump to conclusions. It can be hard not too when you see the same excuses over and over though.

[Barbie]

SassyGirl – that’s GREAT! I hope things work out so that you can take them all in. Yes, a vet check up is in order immediately after you get them. Hopefully everyone is healthy. That’s awesome that your vet is willing to help rehome. I completely understand something just feeling “right”. And no, the new bunnies can never replace the ones we’ve lost. *fingers crossed for being able to get them soon!* You should probably start a new topic when you pick them all up so you can explain the situation to everyone and so we can see lots of pictures!

Jersey, yeah I know, I tend to jump to conclusions too, but still… even though dogs aren’t as hard as bunnies, thinking that your current pets will get along with a new pet is a pretty dangerous assumption to make.

[MimzMum]

I have to admit, there have been some moments of time over my life that even with my own pets, the thought once or twice crosses your mind, “Shouldn’t we find another home for him/her?” But I could never see doing it, no matter the trouble or the work because I just couldn’t imagine who would love them more than I would, especially at their worst. I believe everyone has moments like this…they just don’t all give in to them.
This is the difference I think…people are changing in that they don’t see pets as something they should have to stick with when any effort has to be made to maintain them. It’s not just pets either. It’s a whole generational mindset.

[jerseygirl]

Sorry Sassygirl, I hadn’t see this bunny family situation between my random posts. At first I was a little worried like Barbie, that it might be too soon for you. But you have reassured me. Plus, from other posts you’ve made, it seems you have a good head on your shoulders. If you do end up taking this bunny family, perhaps look at it as temporary with view of becoming permanent? So like you are fostering them. Because the costs could spiral if the Doe is infact pregnant with another litter.
When the current babies are old enough, you could look for good homes for them. If you are able to keep the adults and babies – then this would be great too. I just don’t want you to become overwhelmed…
Oh Lord, I sound like somebodies mother!

[Monkeybun]

Shall we rename you Jersey-Mama? The way I read that ad you posted was the kelpie wasn’t a new dog, as its a “beloved pet” and they know what it likes to do.. but the other dog they have keeps attacking it. I’m wondering why they are allowing the other dog to attack it and not get it training >.<

Sassy, good luck with the fostering! I know I’d be a horrible foster person.. I’d never give them up for adoption! lol

[jerseygirl]

The way I read that ad you posted was the kelpie wasn’t a new dog, as its a “beloved pet” and they know what it likes to do.. but the other dog they have keeps attacking it.

Yes, me also. The kelpie is the beloved pet (that they’re getting rid off). Initially I had thought the other larger dog that’s being aggressive was a new dog for some reason. Another assumption…I guess they think they’re doing the kelpie a favour by removing him from the other dog….

Shall we rename you Jersey-Mama?

No!

[LizzieKnittyBun]

lol Jersey

[angelicvampyre]

Working in rescue I see things like this all the time.

I see alot of “moving and can’t take pet” however I accept this sometimes as some parrots are illegal in certain states and if it comes down to putting a roof over your families head and the pet bird guess the bird is going to lose everytime.

However other strange ones I have had is

“I thought he would be more orange” – bird
“she chirps and it annoys me” – bird
“he barks and it annoys me” – dog
“I realized I really don’t like rats” – rat
“Just found out they live longer then a year, don’t want to get to attached” – rabbit

[TARM]

The one that really upsets me is that their homeowner’s insurance is threatening to drop them because of the breed of their dog. That’s a reason you can’t really do anything about and it sucks. I have State Farm. I dropped Allstate when they refused to give me a renter’s insurance policy because my dogs are a pit bull and a rottweiler. Easy enough to do when you’re renting but much more complicated when you have a mortgage.

[Kiley Rose]

There was just an ad posted that the woman wanted to trade her orange tabby for a black and white cat with “socks” because her and her husband just completely changed their decor to a black and white scheme and the cat didn’t match anymore…

….really?!

[Karla]

Kiley Rose: I hope it was a joke…I cannot believe that there are people like that. Well, at least I think the cat is better of going to another home, that’s for sure. And then I hope their new decor doesn’t match any pet at all, so they won’t get a new one. But why would someone even list that as a reason for giving up their pet?? Why not at least lie and say you have to move tomorrow and cannot take the cat with you?

[Pebble and Dante]

Can’t read any more, all out of tears…..

[Elrohwen]

Jers, I’m a little late here, but kelpies are beautiful dogs. They are one of my top favorite breeds, but unfortunately aren’t readily available in the US 🙁

[MarkBun]

The one that got me was:

“We just redid our living room and our cat no longer goes with the decor.”

[Deleted User]

At least it’s honest, to say that they only wanted that pet to mesh in with some interior design concept. I know a lady who bought a $600 EA to be the centerpiece of her new condominium at the time. A pet surrendered like that is not left with some stigma of poor personality so it still has a good chance.

What made me tired of working at a Humane Society was the owner request euthanasia on Wednesdays. They would bring in beautiful dogs saying they were biters and yes our shelter vet euthanized them because they were owner requests. Many times, you had to wonder if these dogs had not been teased to the point of getting snappy. Many of these dogs came from families with small chidren. I remember them all. It broke my heart.

[GHbun]

Back in Oregon, we bought the house of the local crazy lady, who was moving out of state. She packed up everything — even some of the landscaping — and left her dog in the backyard, with 3 cans of dog food on the porch. It was a German shepherd-wolf mix trained for aggressiveness. We had to call animal control to remove it, and they said it was probably unadoptable. I can only imagine the confusion and terror of an animal watching its owner leave and strangers dragging it away.

[Elrohwen]

Petzy, that’s so sad. I don’t think I could volunteer at a humane society that did euthanasia – I can only handle no kill shelters

[Sage Cat]

But, then . . . we have people like LizzyKnittyBun’s husband.
He has had bronchitis 3 times in the last year. He is going on medication rather than give up Remy & Momo!
He rocks!!!!!!

[Elrohwen]

And on the allergy thing – I do understand that some people have very severe allergies that can put their life at risk due to airways closing off. However, I don’t buy it when people say they had no idea they were so allergic before getting a pet. You know you have bad allergies – the responsible thing to do is get tested for that particular animal or meet some in person. My neighbors were able to foster a dog to see how their son would do with him (with the shelter’s understanding of the circumstances). They had a dog while their son was little and he was ok, but by the time they looked to get another dog his allergies were horrible. They had to give the dog back to the shelter, which was sad because he was such a nice dog, but I’m glad they did the responsible thing of fostering to find out, not just adopting.

I think most people who give up pets due to allergies don’t have the super horrible form of the allergy – they just don’t really care about animals and it’s easier to get rid of it than take allergy medicine. So sad.

[LoveChaCha]

Such a sad.. world

[bigsis7]

I hate the excuse “My kids got bored of it, so we’re giving it away.” Well, yeah! Most kids get bored of something once the novelty wears off. Pets aren’t toys. Recently I was forced by psychotic land lords and my parents to find a new home for my ferrets. I looked for any other option there could have been. At that point there was had none Thankfully I found a good home, but I can’t imagine just dumping a pet because I got bored of them. The only good reason for finding a pet a new home is when it’s for the pets own good. Another thought though is people who can’t care for a pet shouldn’t get a pet in the first place, but maybe it’s better they’re rehoming them so hopefully they can go to a better home? Anyways it is a sad world we live in.

[vaderslave]

wow i really started something :/ such sad stories too. My one dog growing up was a beautiful black female doberman. She had a really cute bubbly personality, but she had some major issues with other animals and oddly enough, hawks. She eventually started getting possessive over people. The cause of her issues, and the way we ended up with her, is because my dad knew someone that found her tied up under a trailer and she had been living that way from puppyhood til about a year and a half. Dobies are very social and this really affected her. My dad tried adopting her but she was aggressive towards small kids, which his wife often babysat, so it was either take her to the spca and get put to sleep or have my mom take her… so mom took her lol and we dealt with her issues. Although she learned to deal with them better, she never got rid of them. It was just so sad, because of how cute and happy she could be, but then how neurotic and vicious she could get. She would randomly attack my black lab/australian shepherd/akita mix every few months, though the mix would usually just submit and her thick fur protected her til we could stop the fight. it’s so depressing how such a beautiful, happy, intelligent, caring animal got partially ruined by such people.

[TARM]

Gah! Shayna! No! Poor fuzzies!

They didn’t freak out about Beau, did they?

[bigsis7]

No they’re ok with Beau, except he’s pooping on the already dead grass that they don’t want to kill, so now we have to chain him up outside so he poops in the “bad side” of the yard (basically rocks and mud). I’m taking him on at least 30 minute walks though, so he’s getting exercise and decent outside time. Gonna be so glad when we get out of this house so we don’t have to deal with the land lady. She’s was harassing my mum for a while (trying to kick us out during Christmas break), so my dad got mad and told her she can’t email or call my mom anymore. The land lady rewrote the contract, so we’re out in April. End of June or sometime in July we’re most likely coming back to VA, cause my dad can’t find a job here. Anyways the ferrets are doing well at their new home, but I miss them a lot :[.

Sorry for the rant and hijacking!

[TARM]

Oh man I’m sorry things aren’t working out. :0( Bunny Lu will be glad to have you back as a volunteer though…if you do come back.

[bigsis7]

Thanks. Yeah if we do move back in won’t be to Herndon or Reston, but we’ll still be somewhere in the area. I’d love to continue volunteering at Bunny Lu :]! I’d find someway to get there one way or another.

[Kiley Rose]

Oh, a lot of CL people have gone crazy on that lady in some “re:” posts. Bet she wishes she made up another reason now.

[LizzieKnittyBun]

Aww Sage Cat, thank you for being so sweet! I am insanely lucky…

We took Remy and Momo in to meet their new doctor today and get a check-up. Clean bills of health all around, except Momo is a little chubby, lol.

Poor Stan had to go wait in the living room because the buns were nervous shedding and fluff was everywhere. Apparently when he went to the allergist and they told him he was allergic to bunnies they said “Will you find them good homes?” and he said “Yeah, ours.”

Ah! <3

[Monkeybun]

Awww what a good hubby! Send him snuggles from M&M.. and tell him don’t worry, e-snuggles are hairless

[LizzieKnittyBun]

haha, I will send him lots of snuggles from you guys. When he got home we had to wash our clothes and he “retreated” to the bedroom where the bunnies can’t go.

<3

[MimzMum]

Ahhh…I thought Fiver was the only bunny who got nervous sheds. (Since his last trip to the vet, he’s losing a whole track of it down his spine.) So do you think that’s just the breeds’ quirk or more the temperament of the bunnies?
I think Stan is absolutely champion to elect to keep Remy & Momo. A lot of people, as we’ve seen, will just vote to give up the pets. I feel for you guys though for the precautions he has to go through to keep his allergies at bay.
I begin to wonder if perhaps my own husband is allergic to the rabbits…probably the cats as well…because his whole family has sinus trouble and in the last few months it’s gotten worse for him. But he won’t even say anything about it. (He also thinks it’s the dust that’s in our place all the time, but he’s a magnet for animal fur and not a day goes by he isn’t complaining about a hair in his eye.) It seems no amount of vacuuming keeps it down.
Needless to say, he spends a lot of time away from the house.
And I’m sure there will be no more pets coming in to our place in our lifetime. He is pretty firm about that. So I need to enjoy the ones we have while I have them.

[Barbie]

Posted By LizzieKnittyBun on 02/25/2010 09:32 PM

Poor Stan had to go wait in the living room because the buns were nervous shedding and fluff was everywhere. Apparently when he went to the allergist and they told him he was allergic to bunnies they said “Will you find them good homes?” and he said “Yeah, ours.”

Ah! <3

 

Aww Lizzie! What a great husband!  Send him some snuggles from Leroy and Jeannie too! 

[LizzieKnittyBun]

Thank you Barbie and Monkey and Sage Cat and MimzMum and all of you!! <3

Aw, Mimz, have you tried giving him a room that is totally devoid of all things bunny? Our little children have been banned from the bedroom. Poor little Remy can’t spoon with me in the middle of the night anymore, lol.

[MimzMum]

My bunnies may be confined to certain rooms, but sadly whatever is irritating hubby’s sinuses is not. >.<
I’m beginning to think we may all be succumbing to hay fever in various degrees, since even my daughter and my son (when he’s home) have assorted chronic nasal problems. Of late, even I’m starting to sneeze around the time the bunnies are getting their food quotas for the morning and evenings. I’ve always had some allergy to grasses, but it was doing much better recently. Now I’m getting bad again.
Of course, it IS starting to warm here slightly…and needless to say in our climate, the pollens don’t waste any time getting to work. But the hubby has been suffering all winter, so that’s not his problem.

[MirBear]

well i did that bad excuse thing too…
my bunnies match my cats ;P

[MimzMum]

That’s what I love about my bunnies…none of them match each other. And I enjoy the asymmetry of the three of them! xD (Although I won’t hesitate to make a quartet if the opportunity presents….lol.)
It’s so cool how different they all are in personality too, and general nature. Now Remy and Momo look like they came from the same spot, but they are such an adorable pair of bookends, I can’t imagine anything cuter! ^_^
My daughter was just remarking on how tiny Remy was in that picture of you in your avatar, Lizzie. How old was he then?

[vaderslave]

total hijack!

[Kokaneeandkahlua]

Ohhh my biggest pet peeve ever!!!

My top reasons for getting rid of pets that makes my blood boil.

1) Had kids (If you aren’t planning on not having kids or speutered yourself, you had to realize this was a possibility when you got the pet; NOT to mention there is no reason you can’t have a pet and a kid-lots of people do!)

2) Moving to a ‘no pets’ apartment. (Why did you even look at a no pets apartment let alone put a deposit and sign a lease on one-when you had pets. Its like this. Say you are a smoker-you are booking a hotel room. You would book a smoking hotel room because you smoke so that you can smoke. If you booked a non smoking hotel room when you smoke you would be unhappy-see simple).

3) Got new pet, doesn’t get along with old pet-turfing the old pet. (So this pet loved and lived with you for happy years and you are turfing him in his golden years after replacing him. Nice)

4) Allergies. (In some cases this is understandable. But people who have allergies should get tested and ensure they can tolerate a pet prior to getting one; OR suffer through it Really really I think it’s just a nice excuse to turf an animal in most cases-those who develop allergies that are unbearable-your off the hook with me )

5) behavior problems. (I especially hate people who re=home an animal with behavior problems when they’ve had the animal from birth. FINE you got a rescue with bad behaviors you tried, you failed, fine. But when you’ve had the pet since it was born any problems are your doing).

Those are my major peeves lol ANd yeah working in shelters-people actually threaten their pets all the time to get you to take them in. They are going to dump them in the country of just set them free in three days if you don’t come get them (But don’t worry there is nothing physically or mentally wrong with the animal that it’s reached such a breaking point I need to dump my pet; I just have a party this weekend and don’t want the mess).

*BIG SIGH* Ahhh great vent thread

[angelicvampyre]

What is so sad is that a lady rang me and said she needed to rehome her Cockie I rang through all the regular stuff and organised to go visit the cockie thinking well another one that the bird gets big and they no longer want it. Turns out she has had the cockie for 71 years! I was in shock, poor lady had no kids and now has to go into a nursing home and can’t keep the bird anymore. it is so sad!

[Moonlight_Wolf]

I think this video might have been posted on here before but… it’s really well done. Makes me cry though!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXdmZv99jUw

Are you trying to make me cry…

I HATE the fact that people don’t realize that putting your animal in a shelter makes him/her at risk for being euthanized.
Thistle was in a shelter because someone was allergic to him. I think it is unreasonable to get rid of an animal if you are allergic, why wouldn’t you just take allergy medicines?

[Moonlight_Wolf]

I love this quote:

“We give dogs time we can spare, space we can spare and love we can spare. And in return, dogs give us their all. It’s the best deal man has ever made.”
M. Facklam

[vaderslave]

angelic — 71 years?! holy crap how long do they live??

[angelicvampyre]

vadersalve – over 100 years. This is one of the reasons I worry about getting certain birds as they will outlive me. I have two green cheeks and a quaker at the moment both who have 25+ years left and I am 30 at the moment. i really want an african grey but they love up to 60 years so i would be in my 80’s early 90s by the time it passes away. When i got the rabbits I was like only 10 years that’s nothing!

[vaderslave]

wow… very old creatures. although as sad as it is, I’m sure there’s older people with african grey’s that are older, so you could get one that’s already a little aged, that way you two could retire together haha that’s kinda sweet though, i guess that’s why my aunt had her birds.. She had an african grey, this sweet sensitive thing, and a cockatoo? Terrible white thing with a big attitude and he talked and yelled and demanded attention, and for fun he would act all sweet and lure you in, only to bite you when he thinks you’ve let your guard down. They were her steady, constant companions when friends and whatnot weren’t. Sadly, she died last year at only 51 years old, so thankfully my cousin, who grew up with them, took them in. Crazy long lives.

[LoveChaCha]

I have heard that people get rid of bunnies for allergy reasons.. however, A LOT of the time it is the Timothy Hay?

I realized that I have an allergic reaction to Timothy Hay!! I was cleaning out my bunny’s litter box after she was fully trained to use it, and I put some hay in the box. The bag was opened and right under my nose and I COULDN’T STOP SNEEZING!!!!!!

I switched to Orchard Grass. Not as fragrant to my nose. Now, I’m just sneezing when I wake up due to allergy season hitting early this year  (I’m not the only one suffering from seasonal allergies early this year!)

It surely wasn’t the bunny, as I’ve had pets all my life Including a bunny at one time before the one I had LOL (That was ages ago!!)

One excuse I don’t like is that… bunnies poop a lot. Uh,.. Yeah? I read something funny about facts about.. um, yes.. Poop. And it said that Rabbits poop approx 500 pieces a day! I would believe it LOL … I nicknamed my bunny recently “MS POOP BUTT!!”

Hey, at least rabbit poop can be picked up easily
But some people are grossed out I guess…

[Kokaneeandkahlua]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXdmZv99jUw

A gal on my dogforum made that video!!

What is so sad is that a lady rang me and said she needed to rehome her Cockie I rang through all the regular stuff and organised to go visit the cockie thinking well another one that the bird gets big and they no longer want it. Turns out she has had the cockie for 71 years! I was in shock, poor lady had no kids and now has to go into a nursing home and can’t keep the bird anymore. it is so sad!

I work in long term care-that happens a LOT though there are lots of homes (ours is pet friendly but the residents cannot keep pets) that are allowing them to keep their pet-they just do better.

I have heard that people get rid of bunnies for allergy reasons.. however, A LOT of the time it is the Timothy Hay?

Totally And that’s easy to manage-though I guess I’m a hypocrite-I am not allergic to anything but perfume so I can’t really say if it’s easy or not.

One excuse I don’t like is that… bunnies poop a lot. Uh,.. Yeah? I read something funny about facts about.. um, yes.. Poop. And it said that Rabbits poop approx 500 pieces a day! I would believe it LOL … I nicknamed my bunny recently “MS POOP BUTT!!”

That’s actually a good thing! I am collecting poops now for my garden and lawn They are fantastic fertilizers

[LoveChaCha]

I just got home from being in Oregon for 4 days, and I went to a local pet store in a small town and I witnessed a mommy feeling guilty because her young daughter was holding a bunny and wanting it

My boyfriend and I went there and I found a HUGE bag of Orchard Hay (I can’t find big bags here where I live in Washington) and I went to talk to the mother about the rabbit.

The mother was hesitant and told the daughter that she won’t get the rabbit for her.

However, after I paid for my stuff, I heard the mother saying “YOU BETTER PLAY WITH IT!”

I wanted to take the bunny for myself, because I seriously doubted that child would claim responsibility for that poor bunny! It may look “CALM” like the mother described it, but its real personality takes a while to come out

[Monkeybun]

What town was that in? I’d like to talk to the pet store owner about selling rabbits.

[LoveChaCha]

Posted By Monkeybun on 03/07/2010 11:24 PM
What town was that in? I’d like to talk to the pet store owner about selling rabbits.

 

Newberg.

I forgot the name of the place.

I don’t think that parents should buy rabbits for their children  There should be a law for rabbits

[Monkeybun]

Wow, thats not far from me at all! Was it Critter Cabana? Thats a well known pet store there that sells animals… gr.

[LoveChaCha]

Yes, it was Critter Cabana.

Eh? Were there problems at that place previously?

[LoveChaCha]

Grr.. double post! Sorry!!

[Monkeybun]

No, not really. I just dislike the selling of animals. They sell bunnies, ferrets, fish, birds, even puppies. The only cats they have are from the shelter though. I may have to drive by one day and take a look, maybe give them info on the rabbit rescues around here. They have 2 stores, the one in Newberg, and one in Wilsonville, which is even closer to me.

[LoveChaCha]

I think that some pet store rabbits come from shelters or from residents in nearby areas whose rabbits have babies.. I am not sure. I got my bunny from a breeder and will likely get a 2nd one from a shelter in the future (bunny dating lol). I think that pet stores need to be held responsible for choosing the right home for the animal. Animals are not toys. They need loving places to be taken to.

I did however – loved the rabbit supplies. Can never find much variety in the local pet stores up here in Washington.

[Monkeybun]

Yeah, its known for having a great selection of stuff for pets. Just wish they’d do more supporting of the adoptions rather than breeding.

[LoveChaCha]

I really wanted to yell at that mother and child.. 😡
It is the bunny activist in me that was coming out!

[Monkeybun]

Ugh, the wilsonville store specializes in puppies and cats… i’ll have to drive to the newberg one to check on the bunnies

[LoveChaCha]

The Wilsonville store has bunnies as well?

[Monkeybun]

The website says just cats and dogs. I’ll take my Wrath of the Bunnies to the Newberg store. I’ll definitely be wearing my Rabbit Advocates sweater! lol

[Critter Cabana]

Critter Cabana here, would just like to jump in on this discussion in response to a couple of the recent posts. I understand many of the reasons for your frustrations with us and other sellers and breeders of bunnies. I’m not attacking or judging you, just lett you know our stance, why we do, and what we do to try to prevent situations like this.

First of all as a side note we are advocatess of house bunnies and many years ago I too had a house bunny guided by Harriman’s “House Rabbit Handbook”. I refer people to this book on Amazon constantly. In fact my little Holland Tulip was one of the main reasons for starting the store. I have a strong passion for integrating peoples lives with animals particularly in ways they havn’t thought about or expected. A house bunny was one of those wonderful suprises in my life.

In regards to the post prior to the pet store section. Being the first place most people turn when they are trying to get rid of an pet, I share and sympathize with a lot of your frustrations. I also have grown to sympathize with a lot of these owners who often mean well. The truth of the matter is that sometimes people are just plain stupid, other times people have legitimate needs that need to be prioritized over the needs of the animal. In these situations, I feel that its still this person’s, not a shetler’s or a store’s responsibility to find it a suitable home.

In regards to this specific incident. For many years we have not sold bunnies on or around Easter to prevent this very thing so I find the story a little suspicious from the beginning. However, that aside, its a situation that does come up more often than anyone would like. Obviously we can’t control all situations and have very little ways in which we can control the future owners. Here are a couple of the things we can do.

First, and I feel most importantly, we socialize the bunnies as much as possible. Our bunnies probably spend more time being handled than they do in their pens. In my experience, many, but not all, bunnies we sell are pets of older kids (10-14). These kids and their parents can be excellent caretakers and generally give their bunnies great lives and benefit greatly from the experience. On of the biggest barriers I’ve seen (though rarely from our bunnies) is people who failed to establish a routine that integrated the bunny into their lives beyond providing for its basic needs. Usually this happens because they bunny wasn’t friendly and required too much effort to do anything with during the initial stages of ownership. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying this is a legitimate excuse, it’s just a reality that I feel like we have in our power to prevent, and our bunnies go home so consistently socialized that we actually put a sign up when a bunny that isn’t saying that it may require an extra special owner.

Another thing we do is focus on educating people as much as we can. This has been a founding principle of our store ever since we started it. Prior to starting the store I owned two iguanas that were victims of my own neglect. As a teenager I purchased them at a pet store when they were on sale for $9.99 and took them home without ever hearing more than a peep from the staff. I might as well have been buying a can of refried beans. In my inexucasble ignorance, I failed to provide adequate lighting and my iguanas suffered from MBD which I was never able to reverse. Through that experience I wanted to start a store that focused being a community for pet owners and could help people like me who longed to enjoy the company of animals. For this reason we try to have a staff that really cares, and makes every effort to educate people before they purchase an animal from us. This includes information about the costs, maintenance, proper husbandry, and anything else to make sure people are prepared both physically and emotionally when get a new pet.

Another thing we have been doing for a couple years now is requiring people to read and sign a responsibility contract prior to purchasing the animal. A coupe of items related to this post I’ve copied and pasted.

– I have the resources and knowledge to provide adequate housing, diet, lighting and environment for this animal.

– I know for a fact that it is OK with my local government, my landlord, my neighbors, my roommates, or any other applicable party for me to have this animal in my home.

– I have considered the long term costs of owning and properly caring for this animal and have the resources to do so. I understand that in the unlikely event I no long have these resources I am still responsible for finding a new home for this animal.

– I understand that animal care is complex and that I am responsible for doing personal research to ensure that I have the knowledge to care for this animal properly.

Even though we obviously can’t enforce this contract in any way. I feel like it does bestow an extra level of seriousness to the new owners and often encourages are more mature level of ownership especially when read together by a kid and their parents and they sign together.

Lastly, we will always take an older bunny after we feel the owners have unsuccessfuly exhausted their other options and have a great need. We also take in and socailize bunnies that people have found or rescued and adopt them out on a very regular basis. In fact we do it constantly and I’d say for every litter of bunnies that we sell we have one adult that we sell.

All that being said, we will probably never stop selling baby bunnies because most people want the experience of raising their pet and I think it’s great experience for people to bond with their new pets. It does make me value and appreciate the people who have a passion and calling for adopting, loving, and providing a good life for adult bunnies even more.

Still I understand your position and am not trying to say that I/we are right and you are wrong. I don’t judge you guys or any of the other poeple in this forum who share your opinions and know you have a right to them. I just wanted to let you know that we have considered the ethical ramifications of what we do and have landed on the other side of the fence on an issue that to me is far from black and white.

In the meantime, I’m very open to other suggestions that anyone on the forum may have that might help us better achieve our mission of integrating the lives of people and animals for the benefit of both.

-Matt

[Deleted User]

I am missing in your guidelines for pet buyers a mention about the importance of spay and neuter. Many people still don’t even know it is a practice. Why don’t you up the price on your rabbits by ten bucks and give people a complimentary copy of the House Rabbit Handbook by Marinell Harriman to go with that bunny

[Monkeybun]

One thing I would like to see is the bunnies being sold along with an information packet, including guidelines on diet, indoor versus outdoor housing, the importance of exercise outside of the cage, spaying an neutering and why its beneficial… do you tell the people that buy the females there is an 80-85% chance that their bun could get uterine cancer by age 4? Spaying completely removes this chance, and allows for longer happier lives.

[Critter Cabana]

Petzy,
The last time we tried we were unable to get the book for resale from the publisher, however I’m looking at their website now and it says they sell directly to pet supply stores so I will investigate that opportunity. One program that we had for a long time was that we offered a discount on a person’s entire package when they first purchased a book and came back after they had read it and took a short quiz prior to making their purchase. However, with the rise of internet guru’s nobody wants to buy a book any more. I will consider making a special contract for bunnies that outlines the importance of fixing.

Monkeybun,
We have a sheet from Oxbow that does provide some care information though not as extensive as you suggest. Perhaps you could compile this resource for us in exchange for some supplies?

Also, as you are in the area do you know of a good place for people to spay and neuter? The vet we recommend chareges $225 for a spay which is often met with adverse reactions. It would be great to have a lower cost option to recommend.

Thanks for the feedback.

Matt

[Monkeybun]

I could certainly put together a little info packet. I’ll drive it over when its done, sometime this week or next, depending on if i need to take my car in…

My vet charges around $225 for spays as well, maybe its the same vet! lol. I’ll do some searching, see what other vets in the area I can come up with. One thing to remind people of is that bunnies are exotic animals, and take different training than cat or dogs, which is one big reason why its more expensive.

[Monkeybun]

Ok, for vets… I have to say, the #225 price is the cheapest in Newberg that I can find, most are reaching upwards towards $300 and above. My vet in Beaverton charges $159, no extras.. with all the extra stuff, sub-Q fluids, after care pain meds, its around $200 total for my little girl. Neuters are cheaper over all.

[angelicvampyre]

Can I just say that I want to thank the pet shop for getting on here and explaining himself. We do have to be careful about what we say about pet shops but CC really steped up (in my mind) as they are asking us to be involved and looking at making sure that they do everything they can to help these animals.

[LizzieKnittyBun]

I agree with angelicvampyre. This was a very cool discussion and wasn’t one-sided like it could have been. Bravo everyone : )

[Sage Cat]

Very Cool Critter Cabana – thanks for posting!

[Critter Cabana]

I too appreciate the feedback and that the responses weren’t hostile. And Monkeybun thanks for taking the extra step to partake in the solution.

[jerseygirl]

Ditto ^ Bravo!

[Monkeybun]

I can’t help myself.. my Overlord Monkey demands I do something for the bunnies

[kralspace]

Watch out Critter Cabana! Monkeybun is famed for her bunny-napping capers. I’d frisk her before letting her leave the store!

Kudos to CC and Monkeybun!

[Monkeybun]

Shhhh. While I may be stuck on adopting, it would be nice to have a place to go squeal over babies.. lol. Don’t scare them off

[angelicvampyre]

I have been members of a few forums and other times the pet shop that had been named came on and went off their rocker at us. CC came on explained, asked questions and offered his side which was nice. I have been involved with on pet shop that threatened legal action and we had to close the board down. Maybe mods we need to make sure that from now on we do not name pet shops? We have been lucky this time but next time it may not work out so well.

Of and CC yes I would be checking any oversized bags that monkey brings in with her!

[jerseygirl]

AV, I think there is something like this in the Guidelines. In this case it was a conversation on shopping at a store really – not targeting specifically. Good idea to refresh on guidelines though for sure to prevent the sort of thing you have experienced.

[angelicvampyre]

Thanks for that you know I don’t think I have ever read the guidelines think I might do that now

[jerseygirl]

btw I meant refresh on the guidelines for all in general, not you specifically. Mainly I should do it – check if what I say is actually true! lol

[Deleted User]

Any animal facility can be guilty of animal abuse; think of the Toronto SPCA; its staff recently faced criminal charges for animal neglect as hundreds of inmate animals were left in their feces to die of hunger and thirst. Not all pet stores/breeders are bad, just as much as not all rescues are good.

[angelicvampyre]

Petzy that is horrible! I felt guilty because I did not get to change the rabbit litter box today before going to work, granted it was changed yesterday at lunch but my guys really like a clean litter box at least every 24 hours so I got to work and was like, oh my poor poor poor rabbits they have dirty litter, yeah I am a sucker!

[MirBear]

the toronto spca? wow, thats awful! and cc it was a pleasure reading your post. ive often wondered about how different pet stores work, most of us on here just assume their all bad, when in some pet stores (like the one i work at for example) actuallycare where their animals go. we sell cats, bunnies, mice, guinea pigs, and our specialty reptiles. but we insure they go to proper homes and the owners are obligated to bring the animals back when they can no longer provide adiquit care. menwhile other pet stores just shove the animal in a box and hand you a recipte and say have a good day as if you bought treats or food or a toy or something. its notvery human, there is no feeling behind it at all.

[MimzMum]

I just wish there were some kind of follow-up on the adoption/purchase contract, not just from pet stores, but from rescues and shelters as well. As it is just human nature to sign away at anything to quiet a whiny child who is begging for a baby pet and then afterwards none of the guidelines are followed anyway. Not to be a wet blanket, but it was just my thought upon reading these posts. No attack on any animal institution is intended.

Wouldn’t an age limit be a better preventative? If baby bunnies are going to be sold regardless, then there should be some way to assure the child is of an age where it is more likely to care for the rabbit than not. I realize a child can be in their teens and still not care for a creature properly, but at least it would up the odds in the rabbits’ favor. I realize this could dissuade sales, but in some cases, this might be preferable to the more unattractive alternatives.
Also, even though spay/neuter can be expensive…in female rabbits the cost of having one languish and ultimately perish from uterine cancer are far greater, IMO.
Just my two cents. I want to thank the representative from Critter Cabana for coming to our site and posting also. Welcome! And if I might ask, I am curious as to how you found we were discussing your establishment?

[MirBear]

i was curious about that aswell. but frankly a little to shy to say anything

[angelicvampyre]

Guys don’t you ever google yourself? I have a google bot set up that find posts about myself and the company that I work for so when i log onto my e-mails in the morning I have a list of sights where my company name and or my name has popped up in the past 24 hours. Most companies have that nowdays, either that or someone when from there to the forum or vice veras, my website lets me know where the visits came from and where they went. So it’s not hard to find out if you are bign written about on line these days

[LoveChaCha]

Mimz, I agree. Animals are family, and I believe that they should be as happy and as warm as any other family member. I just hope that all bunnies will get nice, wonderful homes, full of overloads of hay and love

I was amazed by CC. I loved how some of the big turtles roamed around and how some of the animals could be pet.

 

[Deleted User]

Posted By MimzMum on 03/08/2010 06:27 PM
I just wish there were some kind of follow-up on the adoption/purchase contract, not just from pet stores, but from rescues and shelters as well. As it is just human nature to sign away at anything to quiet a whiny child who is begging for a baby pet and then afterwards none of the guidelines are followed anyway.

mimz,  I am going to take a fatalistic angle on this. Even human children often have it bad in this world in foster homes and other facilities. It seems no manner of screening or follow-up can really catch all the abuse that exists in bad care situations. In the end, people were given reign of this planet, to do with as they please because they can. Anything subjected to us is at our whim. The best thing is to teach our children to have caring hearts. I still know he have to look people over to see if they will make good homes for pets but I believe there is only so much checking you can do.

 

[Monkeybun]

Alrighty, got the info packet together finally.. will drive it over this week It isn’t a big packet, just the basics pretty much… housing, diet, health concerns, litter training.. the good stuff

[MirBear]

Posted By bigsis7 on 02/25/2010 04:10 PM
I hate the excuse “My kids got bored of it, so we’re giving it away.” Well, yeah! Most kids get bored of something once the novelty wears off. Pets aren’t toys. Recently I was forced by psychotic land lords and my parents to find a new home for my ferrets. I looked for any other option there could have been. At that point there was had none Thankfully I found a good home, but I can’t imagine just dumping a pet because I got bored of them. The only good reason for finding a pet a new home is when it’s for the pets own good. Another thought though is people who can’t care for a pet shouldn’t get a pet in the first place, but maybe it’s better they’re rehoming them so hopefully they can go to a better home? Anyways it is a sad world we live in.

there was an add just posted that said that…
 

http://kitchener.kijiji.ca/c-pets-o…Z192569654

that is horrible… it looks like kisss though so im suspicious and just e-mailed the people who adopted her…..

[MirBear]

had to get us back-on-track

[LoveChaCha]

…That is pretty upsetting.

If that is real, I would love to take that cutie.. but I can’t :'(

[MirBear]

yep that 100% real…

[LizzieKnittyBun]

oh boo… did it really not occur to him that his “child” might not be an “adult” about taking care of a pet?

People astonish me sometimes.

[MirBear]

i know… its really stupid, especially around here there is always bunnies on kijiji from stupid owners

[Elrohwen]

Cheers to CC and Monkeybun! It’s so great that we can have a wonderful conversation about this stuff and help some bunnies

And in response to Mimzmum – some rescues around here require that adults be the primary adopters and caretakers. They want to know all of the children, their ages, etc and have the right to refuse the adoption. At one dog shelter, you can’t take your new dog home until every single family member has come in (including other dogs) to check it out and see if they get along. I also agree with Petzy that it’s impossible to prevent all abuse, but there are shelters that have the requirements that you wrote about and I applaud them for that.

[LoveChaCha]

Elrohwen – that sounds very very resonable

Animals are becoming FAMILY, not just a PET nowdays. I feel that every animal deserves to be part of a nice, warming family. I wish that every rescue would do checks that awesome

[Monkeybun]

Well, I drove to Critter Cabana today.. wow that highway sucks.. lol. Was a great store, nice and big with lots of stuff. And OMG the cuteness of the baby bunnies was to die for. I was soo tempted to bring em all home, but well… that wouldn’t have gone over well. Left the packet of info with the lady at the counter, was a good pet store visit. Much better store than many I have been to over all.

The buns had plenty of food an water and hay, looked healthy, didn’t have a ton of room to run, but well, it IS a pet store, not an apartment lol. Looked well taken care of

Sooo… I’ll cut em some slack for selling bunnies

[LoveChaCha]

Monkey – I was impressed with the store as well. The birds… upstairs LOL.. I did not like the reptiles.. my boyfriend tried to get me to pet ’em.. I just freaked out and stayed near the bunnies 😮

I’ve noticed all the bunnies there do not mind being picked up

[Monkeybun]

There was a little orange one that was a bit freaked out, but a kid had been by them a moment before I saw them. Probably got scared. They were sooo adorable.. and silly me didn’t bring my camera.

[MimzMum]

What? No tarantulas? ^_^
Our PETCO sells them (in the center of the store around the tropical fishies…so you can’t see their tanks behind the fishtanks), and my daughter is deathly afraid of spiders…so since there are no more bunnies there, she doesn’t like going in, even for supplies. She’s afraid she’s going to turn around and see one waving it’s furry toes at her.
So I understand you not wanting to touch the reptiles, Brittany. We feel the same way about certain creatures. ^_^

Elrowhen, I am glad to know there are places like that which do a little more research. It gives me hope.

[Critter Cabana]

Update:

Thanks everyone for the positive feedback and Monkey for the extra effort.  One last request and that is if I could get electronic copy in addition to the paper copy so that we can make original prints?

Additionally to a previous poster, we do have a Google alert set up that emails me each morning if they cache our name from a website.  Its a handy little free feature.

Thanks again,

Matt

Critter Cabana

[Monkeybun]

All the stuff I dropped off was from http://www.adoptarabbit.org/articles.html feel free to print off as you need

[LoveChaCha]

Mimz, there ARE trantulas!! AND SNAKES!! OMG!! Boa snakes too, if I am not mistaken.

I freak out! I only like the furry creatures! I’m not a fan of guinea pigs and such.. I have a fear of smalll smalllllll creatures crawling into my bed and EEEK!!!!!!

[MirBear]

i love reptiles… i actually just sold my last gecko…. she was so cute

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