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Forum THE LOUNGE Ahhh!!! Help!?! I need someone to talk me out of adopting another!

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    • Barbie
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        Ugh… Ever since I got Leroy in July and found out how much fun he is, I’ve been wanting another bunny.   I think Leroy would like a friend too.  I sometimes feel bad for him.  He licks me CONSTANTLY… I think he’s trying to tell me he needs a friend to love on.  My boyfriend is opposed to me getting another bunny one becasue of his allergies (and, ok, mine too… ) and two becasue of the care two bunnies would require, and three becasue he thinks Leroy will “unbond” with me and stop coming to me to be petted.  I understand all that, and I think they’re valid reasons but… I can’t help but feel that not only is Leroy an “only bun” but he’s also a “lonely bun.”  I spend as much time with Leroy as I can and I try to give him fun things to do, but I know there’s no substitute for a bunny friend that he can cuddle with.  

        I know I shouldn’t, but a few times a week, I check the websites of my local humance society and HRS and I’ve fallen in love with this pretty little grey Dutch mix.  Her name is Charlotte and she was an abuse case… rescued by the humane society workers. She has part of her ear torn off, they don’t know why, but she is so pretty!   I went to visit her (and i took Leroy).  She arrived at the shelter in the beginning of August so she’s been there awhile   She’s a bit over weight now (but she was malnourished and underweight when she was taken in), but very sweet.  Her bio says shes a nipper, but I don’t care.  That can be solved.  And if it’s a habit she’s picked up and I can’t get her to stop it, I don’t care.  It’s not like a bunny is big enough to bite off my hand – the worst she could do is get me really hard and rip off some skin, and that will heal.  I want her so badly!  Leroy seemed to like her too.  I have to admit… I did kind of a pre-bunny date session a couple months ago even though I KNEW I shouldn’t… They didn’t have anyone there to help me, but they let me use an empty “get to know you” room and they gave me a fence, so I let Leroy meet a few buns through the fence.  He seemed to like Char.  The two were sniffing each other through the fence and following each other – I have videos that I’ll post later tonight if any one is interested.

        The other bunny I want is from my local HRS.  Actually, there are a few from the HRS that I want but I seem to gravitate to the deformed/handicapped buns… (When I was picking my first bun, I ALMOST ended up with a bunny with SEVERE malloclusion)  The one that caught my eye at the HRS (I haven’t met her) is missing an ear.  She and her litter mates were dropped off by a good sam.  Her name is Mira. She’s a tiny little agouti bun.  Probably a mix of some sort.  Her bio doesn’t say but my guess is that her mom bit her ear off – from what I read, it happens sometimes.  Or, since they were found outside, it could have been a predator.  Poor little girl.   There are a couple others at the HRS that I like, but the way I see it, since I’m not afraid to take on a bunny that might have some problems and since I’m more experienced than say a first time bunny owner, I should pick a bun with maybe some behavioral issues like Char the nipper or a cosmetic defect that might turn off some others (if Leroy will have her) to give them a chance and let the other more “adoptable” buns go to a first timer or someone who is less adventurous, if you will, with bunnies.

        Anyway….after all that…. my dilemma is this.  Do I get another bunny?!  If I don’t, will Leroy be ok on his own, with just me?  Since I’ve introduced him to other bunnies and Charlotte, now he knows there are friends out there!   Or am I just putting human traits on him and should I not worry about him missing his own kind? If I do get another bunny, will his personality completely change?  Thats my biggest worry.  That if he has a friend Leroy will want nothing to do with me and not come to me for lovings anymore.  I guess it’s possible that he could pick up bad habits from the new bun and vice versa which would be awful… I can’t afford to keep replacing phone and laptop chargers and I certainly don’t want to have to replace the carpet or my furniture! Yikes.  (Though if my stuff gets damaged, I guess that would be my own dumb fault, wouldn’t it?)  If I do get another bunny, how much more expensive is it?  I know I’d need double the food, double the litter, double the toys, and double the vet fees, but…. I have some savings in case of bunny emergencies, and I work, so the routine stuff would be managable in my budget.  For those of you with two buns, is it that much more work?  I know the bonding is a lot of work, but after that..? Sigh.  Will someone please talk me out of this before Leroy and I go pick up another bunny!?!?!      

        Btw, later tonight, I’ll post pictures of Mira and Charlotte on this thread.

        PS. Sorry for the long post!!!


      • Kafrn
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          Hi Barbie We started off with one bun, and then when Flopsy came along, I was suprised that the work load hardly changed at all! We didnt really go through twice the litter, I still only change it once a day, and both of them used the same tray. It is twice the food, but Stu was twice as happy too , so it was definately worth it! Stu has always been a snuggly bunny. Very playful, and licks us a lot too. This didnt change when Flopsy came along. Actually, now we have 8, and it still hasnt changed. Stu is still the same, and still comes to us for cuddles. And the routine is still the same. I still vaccuum their area every day, and change their food and their hay etc, but it still seems to take the same amount of time that it took when it was just Stu. just that now, she has someone to flop with
          I think the amount of work you have to do depends on the bunny you get. Flopsy is a chewer of tshirts, so I went through a few more of them when she came along, but the routine for cleaning and feeding was still the same!
          Charlotte sounds adorable, and if Leroy loves her then you should go for it! As long as you can talk the hubby into it that is! If you got Mira as well…. well… would it be easier to bond 3 at a time, rather than bonding 2, and then adding another one later

          It would be the ultimate christmas pressie for leroy!


        • Barbie
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            Hahaha Kafrn, maybe not QUITE the response I was hoping for… Lol.  I’m having trouble restraining myself as it is!   But that’s incredibly reassuring that Stu’s personality didn’t change with the addition of the others.  I know each bunny is different, but still.   And yes, you’re right…. it probably WOULD be easier doing a triple bond all at once…

            Here are the pictures.

            Charlotte – look at that tiny white spot on her nose!

            Charlotte again, you can really see her ear in this one:

            Mira:

            Mira again:


          • Chilly's Mom
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              Chilly’s been in my life for 3 years before I got her a mate, Dusty. I went back and forth, like you, on whether I should get a second bun. Let me tell you, during the bonding process I was really discouraged because there were poop wars, I got peed on countlessly, and a timid little Chilly rabbit bit me (I was bleeding as she took a chunk of skin off). But now that they’ve bonded (Chilly follows Dusty everywhere) I know that I made the right decision. Give the process a lot of time. Don’t rush the bonding or get too anxious, and keep referring to Binky Bunny. It’s the best resource for how to bond your bunnies.

              I too worried that with the introduction of a new bunny, Chilly’s demeanor may change. She has picked up some traits from Dusty, but for the most part she’s still her loveable self. Just this morning while I was laying in bed, Chilly jumped up and wanted to be pet. And in return, I got lots of little licks/kisses from her. Now I know that as a pair they’re inseparable, but individually they’re still have their own bunn-ality.

              The addition of a second bunny is a great thing, but alas there’s the added expenses (more food, more litter changing, etc.). The routine to clean up after them is much the same. I still clean their little box once a day, but their food intake is plus one. So salad dinners need to be shopped for a little more often and I’m having to scout out the larger heads of lettuce and bigger sticks of carrots. But it’s sooo worth it when you see them cleaning each other, relaxing together or doing things together like eating or playing. The important thing is that Leroy is happy with his mate (keep up the dating) and continues to receive lots of love from you during the bonding process.

              I’d like to see some responses to your post from single bunny owners. Now that I have bonded two bunnies, I can’t seem to talk you out of getting a mate for Leroy. I’m all for the idea of two is better than one!


            • Kafrn
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                OMG Barbie, that is crazy freaky! Have you seen our bunny Sparrow? She is IDENTICAL to Char! one white foot, and a white dot on her nose!!!
                And OMG how sweet is Mira?! Im tearing up just looking at them, where are they?! I’ll adopt them!


              • KytKattin
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                  I think ‘double the work’ comes more from if you have to keep them separate and/or add litterboxes. Leroy is a rex right? Be careful if you bring in a non-rex with your allergies. Maybe it is just me, but Eclipse doesn’t give me the sniffles nearly as much as the other two. They have microfine fur, and Nova seems to shed constantly (the vet said she is a nervous shedder, and she is ALWAYS nervous about something). It sticks to my nose. Eclipse only sheds twice a year and she is easy to keep with just a lint roller. I love my bunnies, but when I do get another it will be a rex/rex mix. I don’t really have a good reason why you shouldn’t get another bunny, as even though mine are separate, I know that they enjoy each other’s company.


                • Lintini
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                    Silly silly Barbie!! Looks like your mind is already made up!! I can totally understand your worries, if you remember when I got Indy I too was freaking out! My thoughts are, if you have the time, patients, room in your heart, and the spare money…go for it. Sure its a huge responsibility but if everything is going good for you…why not? I’m sure Leroy won’t forget your his #1 Bun if you get him a girlfriend, and you’ve already been taking him on dates!!! I say, do what your heart tells you. My heart told me I needed to have Indy, do what yours says Merry Xmas Leroy


                  • Lintini
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                      OH, I forgot to add…I don’t think anyone’s talking you out of it


                    • Barbie
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                        Hehehe thanks Chilly’s mom! Chilly and Dusty sound so adorable together, and I remember seeing their pictures that you posted Heheh e your guys’ advice about how your buns haven’t changed much is definitely reassuring, but I agree though, hearing from single bunny owners would be helpful.

                        I think part of my problem is that I went into Leroy’s adoption fully intending to get another at some point, but in my mind I was pretty vague about “some point” and now I can’t stop thinking about getting another… I have some time on my hards to start the bonding since it’s winter break for me….

                        Kafrn… I’m in the states, and if I remember correctly you’re in Australia….? Anyway, I’d rather not post my location on this forum, so I won’t go any more specific than saying I’m in the Midwest, but if you’re seriously interested, I can send you the link in a PM? And yes, I have seen Sparrow, they DO look alike!

                        Kytkattin… Hmm… I guess I didn’t realize that non rex’s were more bothersome to allergy prone people?  Leroy is a “mini” rex and his fur is incrediblely fine and I’ve found that THAT sticks in my nose, and all over my clothes, and on the furniture and…   I’m not sure if it’s the fur or the hay that bothers my boyfriend and I, but I vacuum all the time and I wear a mask when handling the hay, so it hasn’t been too bad for me.  My boyfriend gets migraines just from spending a few hours in my apartment   My parents have a lab, so I’d imagine that non-rex rabbits have similar fur?  With the outside guard hairs and then the undercoat?  He doesn’t bother me at all.

                        Lintini… I remember when you got Indy and how worried you were   Thanks for the encouragement I’m not sure if I should be like this:  or this:  ???? You’re right, no one’s talking me out of it! Hehee.


                      • Kafrn
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                          Agh! I keep forgetting that this is a worldwide forum lol!!! Sorry
                          I dont know the rules about bringing in rabbits here, Jersey might know. Do you know if we can “sponsor” a rabbit over there? through paypal or something? until it finds a good home? I could do that! If you could PM me the link that would be awesome! they are just so sweet!


                        • Barbie
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                            Oh, I don’t think anyone has answered this question yet… this is my biggest concern (aside from my concern about his personality changing drastically if I get another)… If I DON’T get Leroy a girlfriend, will he be lonely? How can I tell if he is lonely?


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                              Posted By Kafrn on 12/22/2009 05:09 PM
                              Agh! I keep forgetting that this is a worldwide forum lol!!! Sorry
                              I dont know the rules about bringing in rabbits here, Jersey might know. Do you know if we can “sponsor” a rabbit over there? through paypal or something? until it finds a good home? I could do that! If you could PM me the link that would be awesome! they are just so sweet!

                               

                              Yes! You can sponser bunnies! At least through HRS you can. I don’t know about the bunnies through the humane socitey – I guess if you can’t sponsor the humane society bunnies directly, it’s at least comforting to know that they get adopted faster than the HRS ones (I’ve been “stalking” both sites since early last spring when I first started thinking about getting one!)  Bless you for wanting to sponser them.  Mira kinda just touches your heart doesn’t she, with the missing ear and all?  I’ll send you the link, so you can check it out.  I don’t know how the sponsership works, but you can contact the HRS and ask, I’m sure they have a local email listed. 

                              And come to think of it, if I decide not to get Leroy a girlfriend right now, I think Leroy and I will sponser one of the HRS bunnies! Good idea Kafrn!


                            • KytKattin
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                                Nova’s fur is more like a cats, except even finer. It bugs the bejeezes out of me! Hubble’s isn’t so bad, but he doesn’t shed as much. Every couple of days when I clean Nova’s cage the hair comes up in little plumes and gets stuck to my nose. Lab hair, even the softest I have felt, is much heavier than rabbit hair. If you have been around the shelter bunnies without a problem then you should be okay.


                              • Kafrn
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                                  Im so excited now! We’re going to have sponsor bunnies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And they will be so happy because some bunny loves them


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                                    *cough*

                                    Monkey has been hopping up in my lap and sitting on my lap more than usual now that Moose is here… hehe. I’m getting MORE loves now!

                                    I’m hardly one to talk you out of another bun, as silly me just got a partner for Monkey, so don’t look for help in that department. I CAN tell you, if you do decide to adopt another, I don’t even notice the extra food and work put into it. Moose is just so fun, and Monkey gets all excited when he gets near her pen, its adorable!

                                    The bonding hasn’t even started yet, I haven’t had sessions with them since the 2 dates done with the Rabbit Advocates lady. We just moved Monkey’s cage and pen in beside Moose’s the other night, and the 2 of em are very interested in each other, but not in a bad way. They can sniff and see each other, but can’t touch as we have a few inches between pens. I think a bonding would be easier for you if you do more than one date with the girls, we did one at Moose’s foster home, and one here at Monkey’s home, it hard to tell sometimes if a bun likes another when in their own territory. I’m glad we took Moose and Bogie here to meet Monkey a 2nd time, cuz otherwise we’d have taken Bogie, and not realized how much he’s terrified of Monkey, and how much Moose is interested in her.

                                    Sooo… with that note.. yay for more bunnies


                                  • Barbie
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                                      Hmmm… you all have given me a lot to think about! Leroy is doing zooms around the living room right now and he even threw in a couple binkies, so I know he’s not miserable, but I can’t help but think about how freaking cute it would be if I had two of them doing zooms and binkies around my feet!


                                    • Monkeybun
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                                        I’m attempting to convince the hubby to let me get another bun after M&M are bonded… so far, he says no til we have a house hehe


                                      • Barbie
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                                          Lol MB… just sneak one in….


                                        • Monkeybun
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                                            lol I can see it now..

                                            “Nope, thats not a different bunny you see… Monkey just got bigger and changed colors, thats all…”

                                            lol


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                                              I do not believe Leroy is lonely with all the lovings he gets from you! Don’t get another for Leroy, he is fine.
                                              I have 4 rabbits but they live in my basement so I needed them to have each other for company. Also, I thoroughly enjoy watching them as a little society. I did love having just one spoiled bun when I did, but I also have two dogs that need my attention so I’m glad my rabbits are bonded very much to each other. As for allergies, I second what has been suggested: look for another rex. They shed less in volume and it doesn’t form those ‘fluffy floats of fur’.
                                              However, a bonded pair is hardly much more work than one, only more cost in terms of vet care and litter material/hay.


                                            • katie, max & penny
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                                                well, max started as an only bun, and he hasn’t changed at all in his love with me. he still comes over for pets. and the food goes quicker- but other than that, there hasn’t been any additional costs. and seeing max and penny together is wonderful. they play tag and cuddle and its lovely

                                                i know, i’m just adding to the bad influence that is BB hahaha!!


                                              • Barbie
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                                                  Oh goodness Katie Petzy, thanks for the moral support….. *points finger at self* “stay strong!” hehehehe. Well, I’m still toying with the idea…. I guess another point I can use to talk myself out of getting a second is that I move every summer for an out of state internship… so what with the car rides, new apartment for 3 months, and new roommates…. it would be harder to do with two bunnies. Though… two bunnies could keep each other company! Argh! Sooo torn! Hehe. Thanks guys for all your help. I’ll think about it some more and let you know if I get another. If anyone wants to weigh in, please do!


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                                                    I saw Mira on the HRS site the other day! She is a beauty!

                                                    I have to agree with the allergy issue… our first rabbit was a “regular” rabbit… and then later getting a mini rex, there was a noticeable decrease in fur, and then when we got Max, the volume of fur just about overwhelmed me… and I don’t have any allergies… It really depends on how bad the allergy issues are and how you’re coping with them on an everyday basis.

                                                    I love having a pair, it’s not more physical work once they are bonded. You need a lot of space… One large cage to clean, maybe double litterboxes to dump… the big thing is the added expense. You have the initial set-up (adoption fee, vet check-up, second cage and supplies, or a larger final cage). If you’re already doing hay and litter in bulk, that’s not a big deal… but veggies are expensive regardless. And of course vet care… I’d really evaluate if you’re able to take on a bunny with long-term health issues. It’s noble to want to try, but remember that life throws curve-balls. Jobs are lost, situations change, new expenses arise…


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                                                      If it were me and I had those summer internships, I would not get another rabbit just yet. Based on that, I’m guessing you might still be in school (although I could be wrong) and you might want to wait until you graduate and get a little more stability.

                                                      As for getting a rabbit with health issues – it costs alot of money and I ought to know :~) I spend tons of money on vet bills for my older rabbits and for my Pepe who has dental issues.

                                                      I agree as well with Petzy, that I don’t think Leroy is lonely – he has you!


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                                                        Okay, okay, I’ll talk some sense into you before you start listening to all these crazy multiple bunny people!! (Just kidding guys!)
                                                        Felony decided he wanted to own me when he was just a wee 4 week old ball of mane and fluff. We just celebrated his 3rd birthday in October. He’s been my only little man for over 3 years now, and I love it that way. He is a spoiled little only child. I seriously doubt he sits around the house thinking to himself, “Oh man, I wish there was another bunny around,” so you shouldn’t feel guilty. He sits up on the couch with me and the boyf whenever he wants attention, or head butts into my ankles when I haven’t worshipped him enough that day. A lot of the time though, he hangs out in the top, back left corner of his Maze Haven (product plug). Of course I have seen many, many bunnies that I want to bring home with me, but he seems very content with his current lifestyle.
                                                        I doubt he is lonely because you are his playmate. You give him love and companionship, plus you bring home the bacon…eerrr raisins… which is super important.
                                                        Once you are in a position where you feel you have the time and space to bring in another bun, then I suggest taking him on dates to find the right one for him. There are some buns who are perfectly happy as only buns, for instance Felony, Frankie (where has he been by the way?) and I’m pretty sure Mary Ann was doing get before that stinking Dono moved in 😉


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                                                          Also recognize that you may be subconsciously wanting a second bunny more for you than for Leroy… I agree that Leroy sounds like he’s well taken care of and snug-as-a-bug-in-a-rug… Bunnies are addicting and especially on a site like this where every day you see so many different breeds and colors and types… it’s difficult not to say, “I’ll take this one and that one and the other one… what the heck, I’ll take one of each!”


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                                                            “I’ll take this one and that one and the other one… what the heck, I’ll take one of each!”
                                                            Oh Beka, that made me laugh! And I think you’re right, maybe it is just me wanting another one!

                                                            As far as I know, Mira and Charlotte don’t have any medical issues, just the cosmetic issue of the missing/torn ear, respectively. But yes, a bunny with medical problems is definitely a huge commitment. Maybe i SHOULD wait until I’m done with school…. Boo! I do have a bunny savings fund and a credit card that I keep with no balance for emergencies, so in case of vet bills and unexpected expenses, I would be ok. As for the daily stuff, I have a steady part time job during the school year, so financially, I think I could do it…

                                                            Well, ok, for now, I’m not going to get another one. Thanks for helping guys!


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                                                              So you don’t want to hear my arguments for why you SHOULD  get one more ?


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                                                                I think you’ve made a good decision Barbie :~)


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                                                                  These questions all occoured to me when I was thinking about getting a second.
                                                                  I was mostly worried about Fern changing, which for the most part, she didn’t. Fern is still a sweet thing who loves cuddles.
                                                                  I decided to get another bunny because Fern is only allowed in my bedroom, which is not a high traffic area, so I felt she was not getting enough attention! I was at school and sports for most of the day and then I would do homework and Fern would be alone for most of the day! I felt so bad! Now I feel satisfied because Fern has a partner to lye with at all times and it is just so darn cute seeing them lying pressed against each other.

                                                                  I don’t think that Fern was unhappy when she was alone. But it gives me peace of mind to know that she will not be lonely. I try to imagine myself in my bunny’s shoes and I thought that spending most of the day alone in a room would be a pretty boring life! Even if she had toys and hidy holes, exploring and playing is always the most fun with a friend!

                                                                  Also a unexpected benefit I got from getting another bunny is that Fern now eats a lot more hay!! The only thing I dislike about having gotten another bunny is the fact that thistle pees on all hay, in or out of the litter box. I originally had the hay in a “hay box” that Fern could eat out of. The hay box was in the cage so the hay did not get dispersed throughout the room. But now I have to have a rack above the litter box, which gets little bits of hay spread throughout the room.


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                                                                    My 6lb Mini Lop Cooper is bonded to my 2.5lb dwarf Pookie and it is the CUTEST thing I have ever seen! They snuggle constantly and they take such good care of eachother making sure fur is nice and clean and soft. When I first got Cooper from the local Humane Society his fur was kinda stinky and sticky. Since you arent supposed to give water baths and he wasnt in horrible condition I let Pookie take care of him once they were bonded. He has never looked or felt better!
                                                                    They run and play together and they are always snoozing wrapped around eachother. Just melts my heart.

                                                                    We have 4 buns and two arent bonded to any of them so we are technically taking care of 2 individuals and then a couple. I think a couple is no harder than one because they can amuse eachother when you arent there, groom eachother, etc. And like everyone else has said-they use the same litter boxes and eat the same foods so that stuff will just double.

                                                                    I always worry my Carrera and Hoopie are lonely but Carrera loves being a single gal. Hoopie would like a friend but hubby says no more than 4 in the house ever. And Hoopie has us and always seems happy so hopefully one day we can get him a friend but until then he does seem truely ok w/ haivng just us.


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                                                                      Well, Hedi… technically Cooper and Pookie only count as “one”… right? So by your reasoning, how much harder would it be to take care of 2 pairs and a single? Same difference, right? ;o)

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